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497:. The ESPN article is especially trivial, because although Newton could be said to be the subject, the real story is who will start at RB for the following game. That is not encyclopedic coverage, that is just this week's news. Same really for the Austin story. It's news coverage about how he did that past Saturday. I will definitely accept that Dallas article. More of that and less game reports is what is needed. 418:
I understand it fine. We are in the middle of a college football season, and naturally there will be an uptick in the amount of coverage of players and teams. It is very similar to active political campaigns, where the coverage is much more intense leading up to the election. The guidelines at
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That's just the problem. He's getting more coverage now because a) he's the starting running back for Texas, and b) Texas is in the BCS title game. The amount of coverage is way out of proportion to the actual ntability for just those reasons. You plug anyone into that same spot and they will
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generate just as much coverage, especially in the Texas newspapers and on ESPN. You have to look past the weekly game summaries and previews of upcoming games. There's a lot of chaff out there that people will look at and declare "coverage". What has he done
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It's not up to you to decide what's proportional. It's up to society and the media. The media and society have decided that this guy is interesting and notable and we should abide by that. Go look at the articles I posted. He is the
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You seem to not understand WP:NOTNEWS. It means that Knowledge is not an indiscriminate collection of news reports. However, on the contrary, when a person has been the subject of numerous articles in large publications it
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the fact that the subject is notable and passes WP:BIO. You seem to be claiming that a subject being covered by news reports automatically disqualifies him from notability because of NOTNEWS. -
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Care to explain how? The coverage he is receiving in the here and now is typical for any top level college program. Much of that can be discounted because
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And absolutely none of that matters. High school athletes are inherently non-notable, and being the son of a famous athlete means even less.
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to use the "FBS" crap), are not automatically notable. There will be coverage, especially as Texas prepares for the title game. But
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Notability doesn't expire. If he's notable now based on media coverege, he's notable. End of story. -
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that makes him stand out more than the next "starting tailback at the University of Texas"?
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Tre Newton has been covered by the media since his junior year in high school (here's a
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And those articles are typical of the coverage players for the big schools get
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because he has been in many articles even especially featured in
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of those articles. They aren't "game summaries or previews". -
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is not clear on active players, but the amount of coverage
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College athletes, even those playing at Division 1-A (I
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