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233:'s son by the same name, so the first AFD was about redirecting that one to Will Smith's article. Then the same page was used to create this article and the 2nd AFD is about this same Brian "Trey" Smith. The result was delete, but then it was recreated in 2015. All of the substantive edits to this article have been by SPAs that have almost exclusively edited this article. 507:
at his IMBD page doesn't really answer that either, as he's has a few media appearances, but generally seems to stay out of the spotlight. So I think a separate AfD for him might be more appropriate. That could be undertaken after the histmerge, or if it seems likely to you that a keep vote would be a
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I only removed sources 2 sources, neither of which seemed to exist. The links were broken and when I looked them up the only hits were WP and mirror sites. The only source I could find is the one I linked in the nom that was written by the subject and said the same things his blog already says, which
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I think yes to to the histmerging on all counts (I don't see any real reason there needs to be multiple histories about either person) and yes to deleting the God in a nutshell guy. I'm not sure if Will Smith III should be deleted though, I haven't looked into his notability very much. A quick glance
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Unsourced BLP and the subject does not appear to be at all notable, so it's unlikely there will be any reliable sources to add any time soon. The only coverage outside of the subject's personal blogs and other user-generated websites is
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I agree with MjolnirPants. There's no reason to keep their histories. Can we make it harder for someone to recreate the article about the God in a Nutshell/safe "robber" guy again without demonstrating he has actually become
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non-notable writer. For the record this Trey Smith (born 1977) is not the one the previous AfDs seem to have been about, they were about a man born in 1992, who is mainly notable because his father is a top ranked
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The "safe cracker" is the founder of the God in the Nutshell project. Originally I felt confident that that was the say Trey Smith (author) that the 2nd AFD was about, but I'm not sure of anything anymore.
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Do you want me to histmerge together everything about the God in a Nutshell Project man into one page, and everything about Willard Christopher Smith III into one page, before deleting them all? Or what?
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No champion to explain the problems, dubious wp:notability, and WP:BLP applies to the content, not just the topic.  The nominator I think has clouded the issue by adding WP:OR ("Pseudoarcheology"),
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the 2nd AFD is for the same guy (born 1977), but makes reference the first AFD for Will Smith's son (born 1992), because the nom said, "The previous AfD resulted in the article being redirected to
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is the safe craker and author actually the founder of the God in the Nutshell Project? This article suggests he is, but the disambiguation page suggests they are two different men.
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This AfD needs the attention of an administrator familiar with history merging/splitting and rev deletion.  I am pinging the administrator of most-recent record at
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That's not much of an argument since the nominator removed secondary sources before nomination.  In any case, sources in the article do not define wp:notability.
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The notability of this person is not established since the article provides no secondary sources. I don't understand what is going on with the other issues.
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I don't have a strong a strong opinion either way about Will Smith's son. I guess I don't see a problem keeping "Trey Smith (Will Smith)" as a redirect to
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or make it a protected redirect to Will Smith's article. I would also keep an eye at Trey Smith (author) if this is deleted.--
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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from 04:39, 17 August 2010 to 04:39, 17 August 2010, about the God in a Nutshell Project man
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from 00:19, 17 July 2012 to 23:42, 6 July 2015: disambig page between up to 3 Trey Smiths.
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and had committed a burglary, and may be the God in a Nutshell Project man.
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I have moved/histmerged all the Willard Christopher Smith III edits to
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was already sourced to his blog, so I didn't see a reason to add it.
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as nothing at all actually convincing for independent notability.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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are 15 edits about a Trey Smith who is best known as author of
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list of United States of America-related deletion discussions
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If the verdict is "keep", we must decide whether to move
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Doesn't even look close to being notable. 304:Note: This debate has been included in the 289:list of Authors-related deletion discussions 287:Note: This debate has been included in the 227:in a local magazine written by the subject. 303: 286: 607:and the God in a Nutshell man edits from 511:, without any histmerge of his articles. 830:I don't know how much it matters, but I 78: 229:This page was originally a stub about 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 76: 24: 81:Articles for deletion/Trey Smith 773:, have been unable to find any 465:(still there but now deleted: 1: 750:Trey Smith (disambiguation) 653:Trey Smith (disambiguation) 987: 949:19:37, 28 July 2016 (UTC) 932:19:04, 25 July 2016 (UTC) 904:20:23, 23 July 2016 (UTC) 880:16:21, 23 July 2016 (UTC) 861:20:23, 23 July 2016 (UTC) 826:16:18, 23 July 2016 (UTC) 808:12:47, 23 July 2016 (UTC) 787:10:23, 22 July 2016 (UTC) 766:04:41, 18 July 2016 (UTC) 730:20:43, 17 July 2016 (UTC) 702:16:38, 17 July 2016 (UTC) 684:14:42, 17 July 2016 (UTC) 665:04:38, 18 July 2016 (UTC) 643:05:30, 17 July 2016 (UTC) 625:05:06, 17 July 2016 (UTC) 599:05:00, 17 July 2016 (UTC) 558:00:26, 17 July 2016 (UTC) 527:00:04, 17 July 2016 (UTC) 494:23:13, 16 July 2016 (UTC) 475:05:25, 17 July 2016 (UTC) 417:23:13, 16 July 2016 (UTC) 365:14:22, 16 July 2016 (UTC) 334:06:14, 16 July 2016 (UTC) 315:21:10, 15 July 2016 (UTC) 298:21:10, 15 July 2016 (UTC) 280:16:08, 15 July 2016 (UTC) 252:08:33, 15 July 2016 (UTC) 64:05:33, 29 July 2016 (UTC) 959:Please do not modify it. 836:Will Smith#Personal life 537:Will Smith#Personal_life 32:Please do not modify it. 587:Trey Smith (Will Smith) 453:Trey Smith (Will Smith) 842:on 24 November 2009". 777:reviews of his books. 649:Trey Smith (version 2) 631:Trey Smith (version 2) 609:Trey Smith (version 2) 603:I have history-merged 422:Trey Smith (version 2) 386:All the edits of page 75:AfDs for this article: 522:Tell me all about it. 275:Tell me all about it. 434:Sheree Zampino Smith 746:Trey Smith (author) 605:Trey Smith (author) 432:and his first wife 400:Trey Smith (author) 392:Trey Smith (author) 264:. 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