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201:. His rationale, from the talk page, is as follows: "For almost 5 years this article has been of discussion. After review of existing citations there is little to no credibility of this project as an official idea. Just because a few news people have written to support it, it is opinion only. Donald Trump never adopted the plan to be built anywhere, much less NYC. The article in 2005 clearly presents a publicity opportunity for Donald Trump and no doubt it worked as shortly thereafter, the Freedom Tower's original design was changed to resemble the original North Tower. Recent endorsements by David Schuster were simply that, a newscasters personal opinion not fact. This article should be DELETED. It is not an article that can be Wikified and never will be. Continuing to present this article on Wiki allows for the failure of encyclopedic guidelines and diminishes the credibility of Wiki as a source. Delete now." 406:
past month have made the article a bit better but not good enough - the template that shows the model is locked and it advertises that this design is proposed even though language has been amended in the header, clearly COI. I have painstakingly read all the talk pages history and viewed the websites where this project is maintained. Personal websites on the internet do not qualify as reliable sources.
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as it is a one event idea from 2004 on a hypothetical project by one man and some groupies. ShadeofTime it is POV as this is one man's point of view on how he thinks the former WTC should be built and to boot, he is advertising that idea in this forum and has been since 2005. Recent edits within the
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I don't think it deserves a separate article: it doesn't seem more notable than any of the hundreds of other proposals and competition designs for the site. However if there are any sources
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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But it's not POV! Just because it is unofficial doesn't mean that Knowledge (XXG) advocates it.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to confer it some level of notability, it could be mentioned in
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