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None of these references prove notability. The mention of celebrity ownership doesn't make an artist notable. Typically this is down through art exhibitions, showing work in notable galleries, accolades through notable art groups, or working with other notable artists. This artist hasn't provided any
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It was a technical misunderstanding. I found it going through the notices on misplaced AfD templates, saw that the template is linked to a closed AfD discussion and deleted the page. Then I realized that the situation is more complicated, and another AfD discussion it should have been linked, so that
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The most salient thing in the deletion discussion (IMO) is that he has been in the news quite a few times in the past few years (New York Times, Huffington Post, and lesser known outlets). I don't know if he gets media attention and is collected by famous people due to due to the quality of his
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Thank you, that is a great improvement. I thought (when I voted above) there was sufficient referenced material to meet our populist notability guidelines but it was swamped by the other stuff (which I couldn't bear to consider properly!).
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