399:? No it is not, if we don't have a world war breaking out, the UEFA Euro 2020 will take place and it's nothing less certain now in 2010 then in 2008 when the article was opened or in the meantime when no one complained. Is this article called UEFA Euro 2020 filed bids? No, because it's still 2010 and at this point associations are assessing the possibility of bidding but nothing is finalized yet, however this doesn't mean that the plans are vague and uncertain, presidents of local football federations have spoken, ministers in governments have spoken, sport clubs have spoken about the real plans for stadium expansion etc. So I can't see a single reason why would we erase this perfectly normal article.--
827:- There is sourced information here about the event, which is extremely likely to occur and if not the information about countries preparing bids for the event that surprisingly didn't occur and the reasons for the event being called off will still be worthy of an article. That said, most of the sourced information is still speculative, so I can see moving the article from main space for now. But in that case, userfication is a better solution than deletion, per C of E and others.
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Do you know what does UEFA stand for? It stands for "Union of
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I think you've missed the point of this AfD. Most of those upcoming elections will have been officially announced by some sort of governmental body, which is how we know they are going to happen. UEFA Euro 2020 has not been officially announced by UEFA, so we do not yet know that it is scheduled to
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there is no reason that this tournament will not occur, and now that Euro 2016 venue has been decided, this is the next competition for which hosting is to be decided and there will be interest in the emerging bidding/interest process. Articles for t'ments beyond 2020 should not yet be created.
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It is crystal balling to assume that Euro 2020 will occur. UEFA have not even started discussing Euro 2020 yet. We've only just learned who will host Euro 2016! Just because an article has existed for two years or exists on other
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This has nothing to do with other stuff exists argument as we are talking about consistency. It is as if someone for whatever reason proposed erasing the article on the upcoming elections in Brazil, it would be a perfectly valid point to mention that there are dozens of articles on upcoming
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which is similar to this in that nothing official has been announced but a number of cities (in
Olympics case) and countries (in Euro's case) are known to be considering bids. And there is plenty of info available about that, even if nothing "official" has been announced by UEFA.
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The content of this article is currently made up of nothing but speculation and conjecture. No countries have yet bid to host this tournament, and we do not even know if it will go ahead. Some of the content is merely based on assumptions that the format from
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The tournament will take place and assuming that it wont is a pure pointy speculation that is on verge of no original research violation. It is actually crystal balling to say that the tournament might not take place as everything suggests that it will take
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If we delete this one then we should delete all the other future event articles such as the 2018 Youth
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