239:- When an article looks a bit promotional, like this one, you'd think the promoters should take care of it and make it good. The article has stayed in almost the exact same state since January, 2004! There is no trend of improvement, and there are no reliable sources. We are not protecting a fragile flower that has no friends, so we should hold it to our usual standards. We should expect to see third-party coverage for something that's been around so long, if it's truly notable.
227:- Sources listed above are pretty trivial (brief mentions). No independent sources failing WP:RS/WP:ATT. If the site was that significant, seems like Googling would provide some relevant sources, but I haven't found any. Last debate was terrible with arguments like "The site exists and is verifiable", "Nearly 3,000 forum members", and "nn."
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