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Amazing qualifies for royalty payment. It's a relatively new station being founded I think in 2003, you can't disqualify it because you yourself have never heard of it. Maximum Threshold is syndicated in 4 major US cities. Under The Radar Magazine is one of the most important music magazines worldwide and I have proven inclusion by linking to a photo of the page with our album cover. You're ignoring the fact that I have also proven evidence the band are touring nationally in major venues with major acts. We can argue and be pedantic for a long time about this. But I will state again
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Knowledge (XXG)'s terms as far as I'm reading. Changes need to be made, that's all. Having a full length LP released is only one of many criteria which may be met. Many others on that list are cited. The External Links have been cleaned up to remove Youtube, Twitter, Facebook style links. The article does not cite only 2 interviews, there are 5 or 6 with major credible third party music magazines. The band have been licensed on major network TV, as cited in the other media category with 3rd party links.
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