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633:: The article is somehow contradictorious: it states Veronica Ballestrini is a songwriter, but then bases her notability in a song she didn't wrote. Wouldn't be logical to also show one of her own creations? But the article doesn't mention anything outside that single that she didn't even wrote, so, according to the article, a she's just a cover-singer... Sounds like autopromotion, sincerely. Apart from that, she is only 15/16 years old (born in 1991) and we've got a photo of her; that may be unsuitable (or maybe even illegal) in some countries without her parents' consent... -- 339:
charts! It didn't sell well. Our comment on Ballestrini is neither trival, nor spurious. It is a genuinely held opinion of one of our reviewers, a guy who has been producing, recording and publishing Country music for more than 34 years. He's an industry expert and I'd say his opinion is anything BUT trivial. Now, tell us what the weather's going to be like tomorrow!
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Knowledge criterion for NOTABILITY is charting in a major national chart, we strongly suggest you check out Music Row's Country charts for the last six months. Ballestrina (an appalling artist with an appalling debut single,) meets that criterion. John D Lewis, for and on behalf of Dawn Lewis, owner, Coquet-Shack.com. {
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And Cricket02 : You shopuld get your head round reality before mouthing off like that. NO-ONE can know, before a single is released for sale to the public, whether it WILL DEFINTELY sell well or not. Take Garth Brook's last single. One of the biggest names in Country music and it didn't even make the
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Coquet-Shack is a completely independent web site. It has no affiliations with ANY music label or artist. It is regarded by the Country Music Industry as an honest (sometimes too honest) reviews web site. We can produce dozens of e-mails to prove that point. So, Ten Pound Hammer, beware impugning our
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As to the Ballestrini entry: Hey, bin it. The we can all be absolutely certain that Knowledge is just another MySpace, a quasi-user based site which is in fact, a publicity machine for the big labels who NEVER sign new artists before they've been tried out on smaller independent labels. And since a
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Strange though how a person trying to carve themselves a name as a singer/songwriter chooses to do so by not using her own material. I wonder if she was advised not to do so. If so I wonder why? --
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I think that the article is possibly salvagable. An artist signed to a label with notable artists and having referenced, reliable independent sources, while not a household name, may be notable.
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This is all completely irrelevant and childish to this discussion on whether this artist is notable for inclusion, based on guidelines alone, and not opinion, and should end here.
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I most certainly hope that she does do well and wish her every success. Until then, her notability is not yet established for inclusion in this encyclopedia per
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The label doesn't look notable to me - it was started last year. The tour is a radio tour - what's a radio tour, just interviews? No other sign of notability.
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with regards to notability. One new user has created this article and the article for the label for the sole purpose of self-promotion/advertising. (
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This may be borderline but she is signed with a notable label and is on tour albeit a promotional one. However the article is sourced. Keep for now. --
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reputation or face legal action against yourself and this web site. John D Lewis, for and on behalf of Dawn Lewis, owner, Coquet-Shack.com. (
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has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble itself and reliable.
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has been shown to be a sockpuppet of a user who has been stalking me and making numerous bad faith AFDs against my articles--
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One single does not constitute notabiity. Suggest bringing the article back when notability is established per
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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I think this is a good article, and will become more reliable with more sources soon. Veronica is climbing the
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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You should know that AfD discussions should be based on guidelines/policies more than opinions. Look at
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to boot. Her website isn't one. Seems like possible promotional here. I did speedy the article before.
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rule several times. I've nominated this AFD for notability and also to stop an edit war occurring
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The label itself is further down today's list for AFD, it doesn't have any notability either.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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It will be either wet or dry, does that mean I have a career ahead of me if correct? --
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Only one of the sources is independent, and I'm not sure how reliable Coquet Shack is.
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This anonymous user is actually the creator of the article under discussion. --
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Because that was the way I chose to word it, you would have chosen your way,
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WHOA BOYS! Shackman DID sign the entries above: Shackman is JOHN D LEWIS.
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chart. Keep for now, wait it out and you will see. 27 August 2007 (UTC)
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Additional note: The one independent source/review provided,
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Non-notable musician who doesn't meet anything close to
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Veronica Ballestrini
Veronica Ballestrini
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