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249:!" That is not the standard for articles. There need to be reliable sources that offer significant coverage of this phrase as a phrase in and of itself. Should such sources materialize following the deletion of this article then the article can be recreated. It's not like the depth of coverage in this article is so great that recreating it with sources would be some great burden, and if it were the deleted article can always be userfied by asking any admin to do it. 202:
than a dictionary and no one had just bothered to expand the article with them, but there are not. If this is deleted and suddenly someone discovers such sources, then great, recreate the article with proper sourcing that establishes the encyclopedic nature of the topic. But "keep it because someday there might be sources" is not a reasonable rationale.
223:. The fact that nothing has happened to this article since the last nomination is frustrating, but there's potential for more than just a dicdef here, if someone will roll up their sleeves. A couple hundred pages link to the article, so someone just needs to fix it. If I can actually find some decent references, I might do the work myself. 201:
True, but not even close to the point of the nomination. There are no sources that indicate that this phrase in and of itself passes policies and guidelines. It would be a different matter if there were a plethora of sources out there that established that this was proper for an encyclopedia rather
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to the disambiguation page. This is simply a dicdef and I don't see any potential of it becoming anything more than that. Seriously, what new content can be introduced here? "List of VIPs by country"? "Status required to become a VIP"? It would have more chances if VIP were an official status, but
151:. If there are, as the previous AFD asserts, special protocols associated with various military bodies then articles should be written about them specifically; they do not serve as justification for keeping a dictionary definition article. 77: 407:
to the dab page. I was unable to find sources, but if someone can improve on my googlefu and confirm the Royal Air Force introduced the term it contains more than a dicdef and I would change my vote to keep) -
475:. I'm afraid that is outside the range of topics I know or can write about, but there is enough material there to convince me that this is something medical professionals are concerned about. 72: 137: 389:
Actions speak louder than words and words is all we've been getting ever since the first nomination. If it shouldn't be too hard, then why doesn't anyone expand the article?
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Can you point to any sources from your Google search that support your conclusion that this is a "well-studied topic in academia," rather than just a commonly used term?
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it's not, it's just a different word for a "celebrity". Yes, the word "VIP" may be notable due to its heavy use, but so is also "AFAIK". Do we have an article on "
147:- nominated once for deletion two years ago and kept, but in the intervening two years nothing has emerged to indicate that this is or will ever be anything but a 471: 497:. The sources you link to would not support an expansion of the article currently under discussion at all. They would, however, support an article on 104: 99: 108: 91: 669: 650: 642: 636: 599: 579: 567: 541: 518: 510: 509:. (<--Note that that disambiguation page links to a Wiktionary article on the word frailty--which is what should be done with VIP too.) 484: 465: 457: 451: 429: 415: 397: 384: 361: 326: 321: 296: 279: 258: 232: 211: 192: 173: 160: 56: 54: 440: 17: 442:, so there is plenty of potential for expansion here. The article is currently a stub, but deleting it won't improve our coverage. 532:
Notable and useful. I've added a reference for the RAF cite. (Reference could be better, but it's better than "citation needed")
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There is no deadline for improvements. probably a Knowledge (XXG) article can be written about most such phrases.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Well, for one thing, the special treatment of VIPs in medicine (called VIP syndrome) has been studied closely
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not trendy enough to have been impoved to date, but common sense says should not be too hard.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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This pretty much translates to "keep this article because I just
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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per DGG. THe study of VIPs is a well-studied topic in academia
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this is a notable term in common usage. Don't fear the stubs.
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to its dab page. Knowledge (XXG) is not a dictionary.
549:It went through AfD back then, and the results was 619:. Verifiable means exactly that easily locatable 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 687:). No further edits should be made to this page. 493:is yet another example of a usage of the term 623:and it is an encyclopedic topic. Tag it and 8: 641:How can this be fixed? Using what sources? 501:. Otherwise, by your logic, the sources on 73:Articles for deletion/Very Important Person 181:There is no deadline for improvements. 70: 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 69: 393:get that opportunity every month! 24: 420:RAF reference found and added. 284:We don't have an article about 1: 670:14:10, 20 February 2009 (UTC) 651:15:30, 20 February 2009 (UTC) 637:01:42, 20 February 2009 (UTC) 621:reliable sources can be found 600:18:47, 19 February 2009 (UTC) 580:14:10, 20 February 2009 (UTC) 568:20:41, 18 February 2009 (UTC) 542:03:41, 18 February 2009 (UTC) 519:12:30, 18 February 2009 (UTC) 485:07:16, 18 February 2009 (UTC) 466:22:41, 17 February 2009 (UTC) 452:14:48, 17 February 2009 (UTC) 430:03:41, 18 February 2009 (UTC) 416:09:15, 17 February 2009 (UTC) 398:23:18, 20 February 2009 (UTC) 385:06:47, 17 February 2009 (UTC) 362:06:47, 17 February 2009 (UTC) 327:03:17, 17 February 2009 (UTC) 297:23:18, 20 February 2009 (UTC) 280:02:17, 17 February 2009 (UTC) 259:01:36, 17 February 2009 (UTC) 233:00:57, 17 February 2009 (UTC) 212:01:24, 17 February 2009 (UTC) 193:00:39, 17 February 2009 (UTC) 174:23:50, 16 February 2009 (UTC) 161:23:06, 16 February 2009 (UTC) 57:02:09, 21 February 2009 (UTC) 505:would support an article on 245:there are sources out there 704: 555:keep pending improvements 680:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 68:AfDs for this article: 589:as a notable topic. — 149:dictionary definition 88:Very Important Person 63:Very Important Person 44:The result was 482: 449: 325: 695: 682: 566: 503:frailty syndrome 480: 447: 315: 313: 135: 129: 111: 34: 703: 702: 698: 697: 696: 694: 693: 692: 691: 685:deletion review 678: 658:Strong redirect 592:LinguistAtLarge 562: 309: 131: 102: 86: 83: 66: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 701: 699: 690: 689: 673: 672: 667:Admiral Norton 655: 654: 653: 643:160.39.213.152 602: 584: 583: 582: 577:Admiral Norton 544: 527: 526: 525: 524: 523: 522: 521: 511:160.39.213.152 458:160.39.213.152 434: 433: 432: 402: 401: 400: 395:Admiral Norton 364: 329: 301: 300: 299: 294:Admiral Norton 264: 263: 262: 261: 236: 235: 217: 216: 215: 214: 196: 195: 176: 142: 141: 82: 81: 80: 75: 67: 65: 60: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 700: 688: 686: 681: 675: 674: 671: 668: 664: 659: 656: 652: 648: 644: 640: 639: 638: 634: 630: 626: 622: 618: 614: 610: 606: 603: 601: 598: 597: 593: 588: 585: 581: 578: 574: 571: 570: 569: 565: 560: 556: 552: 548: 545: 543: 539: 535: 531: 528: 520: 516: 512: 508: 504: 500: 496: 492: 488: 487: 486: 483: 478: 474: 472: 469: 468: 467: 463: 459: 455: 454: 453: 450: 445: 441: 438: 435: 431: 427: 423: 419: 418: 417: 414: 411: 406: 403: 399: 396: 392: 388: 387: 386: 382: 379: 376: 372: 368: 365: 363: 359: 356: 353: 349: 345: 341: 340: 335: 334: 330: 328: 323: 319: 314: 312: 305: 302: 298: 295: 291: 287: 283: 282: 281: 277: 273: 269: 266: 265: 260: 256: 252: 248: 244: 240: 239: 238: 237: 234: 230: 226: 222: 219: 218: 213: 209: 205: 200: 199: 198: 197: 194: 190: 186: 185: 180: 177: 175: 172: 168: 165: 164: 163: 162: 158: 154: 150: 146: 139: 134: 127: 123: 119: 115: 110: 106: 101: 97: 93: 89: 85: 84: 79: 76: 74: 71: 64: 61: 59: 58: 55: 53: 51: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 679: 676: 657: 604: 590: 586: 554: 550: 546: 529: 499:VIP syndrome 494: 491:VIP syndrome 490: 436: 404: 377: 366: 354: 337: 332: 331: 310: 303: 267: 246: 242: 220: 182: 178: 166: 144: 143: 50:Juliancolton 45: 43: 31: 28: 609:WP:OUTCOMES 547:Speedy keep 391:3000 people 564:Lilac Soul 272:Kingturtle 477:Sjakkalle 444:Sjakkalle 308:A Man In 247:somewhere 481:(Check!) 448:(Check!) 405:Redirect 381:contribs 371:Casliber 358:contribs 348:Casliber 322:past ops 318:conspire 251:Otto4711 204:Otto4711 171:MuZemike 167:Redirect 153:Otto4711 138:View log 629:Bearian 559:WP:SNOW 534:Simon12 507:frailty 422:Simon12 105:protect 100:history 625:fix it 615:, and 573:WP:CCC 557:. 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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
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Very Important Person
Articles for deletion/Very Important Person
Articles for deletion/Very Important Person (2nd nomination)
Very Important Person
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View log
dictionary definition
Otto4711
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23:06, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
MuZemike
23:50, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
DGG
talk
00:39, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

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