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:Articles for deletion/Xxxchurch 4th nomination - Knowledge (XXG)

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324:- new article is well-sourced. definitely needs work and expansion but that isn't grounds for deletion. also nominator doesn't give any reasons for deletion other than "it was deleted before". Call for deletion should address the actual content of the article as it is now. Previous deletions claimed it was non-notable but that has been disproven by sourcing so the reason for the previous AFDs no longer apply. 418:
Recreation of deleted material. A copy, by any title, of a page that was deleted via Articles for deletion or another XfD process, provided that the copy is substantially identical to the deleted version and that any revisions made clearly do not address the reasons for which the page was deleted.
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unless someone comes up with a much better explanation for this nomination. "Having previously been deleted" is NOT a deletion criterion. There are plenty of reliable sources establishing this site's notability. What are we talking about here? Does anyone have an actual reason to delete this
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relevant to the applicable guidelines. As you say, the site is notable, and has received substantial media attention, because of the unique way it approaches the porn question. That is "notable" for Knowledge (XXG)'s purposes, more than just getting a lot of visitors.
312:- it's not a recreation of deleted content if DRV overturns the deletion. There has been plenty of media coverage of this organization - it's obviously notable. When I saw the DRV, I was scratching my head really wondering why there was any question. -- 419:
This clause does not apply in user space, to content undeleted per undeletion policy, or if the prior deletions were proposed or speedy deletions, although in this last case, the previous speedy criterion, or other speedy deletion criteria, may apply.
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should be based on Knowledge (XXG) policy. "I want to" is not a reason to delete an article. Consensus is reconsidered all the time, and it looks like some good points were made at DRV. Which Knowledge (XXG) policy does this article violate?
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Deletion Review is subject to the same sort of consensus as AfD - anyone who participated in the initial AfD was welcome to weigh in on the DR as well, so it's not like some outside force sandbagged the community - they are also the community.
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The DRV closed as "relist at editorial discretion." I'm listing it because I want to, in my discretion. I don't like the idea that the community consensus can be labeled as "wrong" at DRV and overturned.
160:, it is only notable because of the unique way it approaches the porn question. It is in no way notable in any other sense, ie there is no real fanbase or people who regularly visit the site. 111: 392:
Well if you are going to recommend something but aren't going to do the research required to ensure you are actually following procedure, allow me to do the research for you. From
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but Deletion Review (also linked from talk page) decided that they could overturn community consensus based on their own reading of Knowledge (XXG)'s rules.
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for this reason are invalid. If anyone who has voted for speedy delete has another reason for claiming speedy delete applies please put it forth.
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notability has been met. Unless someone can demonstrate that there are significantly more notable examples of websites for the
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I don't want to look it up. It's speedy deletion criteria to speedy something that's a recreation of a deleted article.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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There's no reason to delete. It is N, as proven by the national coverage, and now sourced.
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provide "detail on (the) website's achievements, impact or historical significance," which
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Article meets requirements for notability, no valid reason for deletion has been given.
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might be more appropriate in the long-term since not all views are anti-pornography.
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Not when that recreation was a result of a deletion review. Which this WAS.
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This clause does not apply (...) to content undeleted per undeletion policy
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always deleted and recreated. Article needs salting of all variations.
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applies to this article? That goes for anyone who has advocated
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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I note that the specific guidelines on notability of web sites (
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Article previously deleted 3 times at AfD (see links from
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Just to clarify, the links to the previous Afds are
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
Can't sleep, clown will eat me
02:57, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Xxxchurch
Xxxchurch
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
View log
the talk page
Nardman1
20:47, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
AFD #1
AFD #2
AFD #3
here
WP:V
WP:N
Nardman1
02:33, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
WP:WEB
Xxxchurch
PubliusFL

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