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867:, included people from the surrounding metropolitan area, that I chose to follow what seemed to be the existing pattern, naming the category after the first-named major city in the name of the metropolitan area. I note that some have been retitled "People from the (x) area" and similar, and would have no objection to retitling them in that way. In fact, in the original communications with the various state projects, I specifically mentioned the possibility of retitling them. It seems that no one saw fit to do so. If you think it would be less confusing to change the name to "People from the Deltona-Daytona Beach-Ormond Beach metropolitan area," or "...metropolitan statistical area", or "...Volusia County, Florida", in which the entire MSA is contained, that would clearly be unobjectionable. However, I think that, given the size of the state of Florida, it is all but required that the "People from Florida" category be broken up where reasonably possible. Texas recently had over 1500 names in the "People from Texas" category, and as a result a vanity user page which was included in the category went uncommented-upon for three years. Florida will rather quickly grow to the same size if subcats like this are not in place. Regarding the fact that Deltona is a bedroom community, I don't know. All I know is the county is counted as its own 832:: I created this category, along with a few hundred others some months ago, to reduce the size of the various "People from (state)" categories. One was made for each metropolitan statistical area in the country. I intentionally underpopulated each one so that they would be easier to change if such were wanted. I also notified every state project about the existence of these categories, asking them to fill them out. Some did, evidently others did not. I have just finished adding several names to this category. There are several cities in the metropolitan area I haven't gone through yet, as well as the county itself, and I think it currently stands at 60 elements. I hope it is enough. 507:- "moslem" is a spelling seldom used in contemporary writing, so should be dropped. But "Islamic" is better here anyway, because that's the term usually used for non-people; several of the category's contents are along the lines of "Islamic University of Somewhere". 1303:, as it isn't self-evident to me that this is restricted to current monarchies, as stated in the blurb. It needs some tidying up (note that while as of right now there are 46 subcategories they aren't for the 46 separate monarchies that there are said to be). 788:. The only other people (besides the article that's already in there) I can think of is those people who were murdered for their XBox earlier this year. Almost no room for growth so this is better off merged into People from Florida, IMO. 1025:, Apart from the introductory article this category is entirely populated with articles about people. Knowledge (XXG) policy is that categories like this should have plural names, but "Anglo-Irishes" is incorrect, so the name should be 973: 849:
is anything but confusing. Deltona is a very populous city these days, but it is not what you would call very influential in the area (as the article on Deltona points out, it is mostly notable for being a
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per nom. This is a useful container cat for several existing cats (which have inconsistent naming but oh well). It should not be a categorization for countries per se, although it has been used that way.
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Maybe I should say it should become the supercategory for current and former monarchies. I agree that national categories and articles should be removed which I think is what you are suggesting.
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per nom, and per Pavel, this could become very large if not scoped. Other than a few colonial-era secular universities I believe that nearly all Islamic-world universities would qualify. --
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by the federal government in their latest release on the subject. If someone were to want to merge it into the metropolitan Orlando grouping, that would be unobjectionable as well.
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per nom. As the nom said, it needs tidying up. It contains a mixture of country categories and monarchy categories. The national categories should be taken out.
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for Orlando). I'm sure it works much more naturally with metropolitan areas where the major city is obvious, but in this case I think a merge would be better.
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Usage of "Bruneian" seems to be established, with many hits relative to the size of the country, a good number of which were apparently written by locals:
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Do not rename as there is no mechanism to ensure the population is amended (and the alternative name isn't that great an idea anyway).
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What's a "serious purpose" in this context? I don't follow this. Unlikely to conform to a neutral point of view, get rid of it. —
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sounds good to me. I'd change the title myself if I didn't think that might run contrary to the rules of this discussion.
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See my comment below, which demonstrates that that is a non-issue. The separate categories for monarchies (
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That shouldn't be necessary. If an Islamic University is non-notable it shouldn't even have an article.--
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In answer to Recury, it was only after seeing that all the other similar pages, including in particular
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What I mean is someone eager to put every university in Egypt into the category, for example.
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Add includion criterions to avoid every single university in muslim world being listed here.
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should be uncontroversial. Actually, isn't this a case of speedy per naming conventions?
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An admirable idea, but I don't really see how putting people from, say,
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But it is not a supercategory so it cannot "stay" as such.
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September 14
September 16
Kbdank71
15:00, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Category:Star Wars Naberrie family
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Beardo
23:58, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Storkk
13:07, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Dale Arnett
12:46, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Kbdank71
15:01, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Category:Star Wars Solo family
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Beardo
23:58, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

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