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3069:, which begins as follows - "Nationality is a relationship between a person and their state of origin, culture, association, affiliation and/or loyalty. Nationality affords the state jurisdiction over the person, and affords the person the protection of the state. Traditionally under international law and conflict of laws principles, it is the right of each state to determine who its nationals are. Today the law of nationality is increasingly coming under more international regulation by various conventions on statelessness, as well as some multilateral treaties such as the European Convention on Nationality." The "Jewish Nationality" does not exist under that definition, per se, as the "Jewish nation" does not afford jurisdiction over the person or protection of the state. However, the nation of Israel 3015:. Just something else exists doesn't mean we should keep this cat. From a figure skater tree perspective, the distinction "Jewish" is not important or related to the profession. Would we create other subcategories of figure skaters for other religion? What about for their political party affiliation? I understand that there is a "Jewish sportspeople" category, and that there was an attempt to break down that category into subcategories based on sport. However, after going through each and every article, every person has at least one other article that notes that they are Jewish, (for example Category:Jewish American sportspeople), so this category is completely redundant with other existing cats (just look at the articles).- 3044:. I have read the above and there is no clear reason articulated for keeping this category. If Jew is a nation, when did they get their seat at the UN? The simple fact is that we have the nation of Israel that is the correct place for many of the valid intersections by nation. No one has indicated why this single category standing out as a forest of one needs to be kept. There is no reason for this over categorization and it is clearly a non-notable intersection by ethnicity. There has been no case presented that supports the notability of this intersection. The argument that there is a similar category that has not been nominated is not a reason to cause this one to be kept. 2319:. I also disagree with Dr. frog on this. See the discussion above in my comment under "3. Notability," which clearly points out that "Notability on Knowledge (XXG) for people is based on the following criterion: The person has been a primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person. This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, magazine articles, books, scholarly papers, and television documentaries ...."-- 2555:. Such arguments only mean that those similar items should also probably be deleted, just as this one should be deleted. So if you see "Catholic figure skaters" or something similar, nominate it for deletion here so we can delete it too. 3) This is not an attack against ALL Jewish-occupational categories. Some are probably legitimate because the person's Jewish heritage directly impacts their particular career. I'm not convinced, though, that figure skating is among those occupations. 2738:. Rather he would have nationality of whatever nation under whom he is governed as a citizen (eg Mexican nationality, or Columbian, etc). "Aztec" would be the ethnicity, because he shares a heritage with other people of similar ancestry. Ethnicity therefore represents ancestral background, while Nationality represents the nation state under which you are governed. "Jewish" is founded in ancestral heritage, while "Israeli" is founded in being governed by the nation state of Israel. 637:

race. Race is a characteristic that a person has absolutely no control over. On the other hand, Islam is a religion; a belief system. If someone disagrees with Islam, then they are disagreeing with ideas that a person chooses- this is wholly different than a discriminatory prejudice against people themselves based on their race. It's my opinion that the users above made this comparison error inadvertently, and it should be promptly forgiven as an honest mistake. --

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countries. Though I should point out that notability does not, as you suggest, require that the fact that the person is Jewish impact their career, anymore than we are required to demonstrate that the fact that a person is from the U.S. or born on July 1 impacts their career -- but we still list those. Plus, see notability discussion and nationality discussion above, which respond to some of your other comments. --

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obvious example.) It is not nearly so clear that your religion or ethnicity, though, impacts your skating career at all. Thus "Skaters by nationality" is not a "random intersection" because the two traits are intertwined, but "Skaters by ethnicity" or "Skaters by religion" are generally going to be random intersections since the traits and the occupation have little to do with each other.

4693:- I saw the problems described above (mainly the loose use of the term "bigamist") when I first nominated the category tree for deletion. An anonymous user also recently contacted me to ask about how to clean up the categories; I could only recommend deletion. Also note that the previous discussion reached no consensus, which means that further discussion is apropriate at this time. 2160:, that "Notability on Knowledge (XXG) for people is based on the following criterion: The person has been a primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person. This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, magazine articles, books, scholarly papers, and television documentaries ...." 2682:

of its members refer to them selves as "members of the Jewish nation". Israel has internationally recognized geographic borders and national sovereignty. You can have an international passport claiming that you are a "citizen of Israel". You can't, though, have an international passport claiming to be a "citizen of the Jewish nation".

4715:- After reviewing the previous discussion, I agree that it could have been closed as "keep". My general understanding is that discussions that are closed as "no consensus" should be discussed further but that discussions closed as "keep" should be left alone. By that logic, I would acquiesce to closing this discussion if appropriate. 837:. We can add Anti-Judaism, Anti-Mormonism, and other categories as well if we seriously want to consider deleting them as a block. But this individual category has been nominated twice before, and many of the same arguments remain. Why delete just the Anti-Islam category, when we still have Anti-Christianity and Anti-Judaism?- 2827:

Many users might also favour deleting those categories, but such deletions are hard to implement, because like Jewish categories LGBT categories are protected by well organised and determined special interest groups. The existence of some bad categories is never a justification for keeping others. It

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First, if you look at my initial comment you will see that I discuss how the Jews are in fact a nation. Second, I have no idea where your notions as to what is "generally accepted" come from. They certainly do not match my understanding. The impact on careers of athletes who were Jewish, precisely

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categories should only combine occupation and ethnicity in cases when the two have some sort of direct connection (ie someone for whom being Jewish directly influence their figure skating career). It seems highly doubtful that any such articles exist. Therefore delete as a random intersection. Note

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I agree with Runcorn here, though I recognize the fact that Koldingo himself was not aware of this at the time of his suggesting that this category be deleted. A few of the editors in this discussion formerly tried to delete the categories "Jewish sportspeople," and/or "Jewish Fencers" in the past.

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There may well be a Welsh figure skating championships, as there are Welsh championships in dozens of sports, but there is no Jewish figure skating championships. The constituent countries of the UK are essential subdivisions in sport as they compete separately in the great majority of sports on the

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However the fact that some people refer to "Jewish people" as "members of the Jewish nation" doesn't make "Jewish" an officially recognized nationality. Israel is a recognized nation, and thus "Israeli" would be a recognized nationality. But Jewish is an ethnicity or heritage that on occasion some

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As is indicated in some of the articles e.g., those of Rubinstein and Shmerkin, anti-semitism played a role in the careers of some of the Jewish figure skaters. This was especially common in the former communist countries, and as you will note a number of these skaters finally emigrated from those

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There are no new arguments in this case compared to previous nominations which were made in very similar topic areas. Since when do categories have to have stereotypes, or even relate to stereotypes to exist? That isn't an argument its a point of interest that some may notice but isn't intended for

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Thus, where one is noted as being a Jew in multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person, such as newspaper articles, magazine articles, books, and the like, they meet the notability requirement. And thus it would be appropriate to have a distinct category. These

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People are sometimes categorized by notable ancestry, culture, or ethnicity, depending upon the common conventions of speech for each nationality. A hyphen is used to distinguish the word order: ....The heritage should be combined with the occupation, replacing the nationality alone (for example,

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Once again, a Jewish category is being singled out for deletion when there are many similar ones. I am not aware of any stereotype of skaters as being LGBT, but if there were, it is not Knowledge (XXG)'s job to reinforce incorrect stereotypes so that category should be deleted first. Is anyone in

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which seems a likely candidate for article deletion (unreferenced list of networks which air the show). So as far as I can tell both these categories are entirely unnecessary. Delete as per similar categories with limited entries that have popped up for other eponymous TV series in recent months.

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Only one other user supported your previous nomination, so it should have been closed as a straight keep decision. The implication of your assertion is that whereas decisions to delete are final, failed deletion attempts are merely a temporary inconvenience to an ongoing attempt to get a deletion.

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per nom. The assertion that "Anti-Islam Sentiment" is somehow equivalent to "Antisemitism" is profoundly incorrect. As usual, Sefringle nailed it. Anti-semitism is a persecution that applies to Jews as a race. The prejudice expressed by antisemitism is an attack on people (Jews) based on their

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These categories are not being used accurately, ie to categorise the firms by the countries where they are based, and if they were, some of the subcategories would be empty. Grouping accountancy firms by their HQ country is not inappropriate, but this set of categories is such a botch-job that is

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At least in my case it is not the first time, since I do care about the case. And the continued re-consideration of this issue should be on the nominators head, not on the person trying to alert people to the continued discussion in the area where otherwise the same people who discussed the issue

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exists as a category. However, due to the overwhelming stereotype of all figure skaters as gay, I think that category is useful to categorize the skaters who have actually come out of the closet. However, I have never seen a stereotype of all figure skaters as , so seperating by religion makes no

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Umbrella nom for this and all subcats. Pejorative category. Out of the less than 20 articles in the entire cat + subs, only 1 or 2 were actually famous for being bigamists (for religious reasons or in spite of them), and the others were just footnotes in the lives of people who were famous (or

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were all involved, for example, in the recent failed attempt to have jewish fencers removed as a category. I personally think it is a waste of our time for them to try again here, category by category. But when I asked some of them to drop it for that reason, so as not to waste everyone's time

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what the other categories by nationality and occupation do for other nationalities- break down its members into neat little groups for easy comparison and/or location. Was the life of Jewish figure skaters different than that of other Jewish sportspeople? Sure, if only because figure-skating is

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generally accepted that a person's ethnicity or religion affects their careers in most cases. For figure skating, for example, your nationality directly impacts your figure skating career by directing the course of your training and competitions (Olympic skaters compete for their nations as an

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Also notice above that it states that the ethnic group "Jews" originated from "the Israelites". Again, "Israelite" is the original nationality since the nation was "Israel". So "Israeli" or "Israelite" (whichever is proper) would be a nationality of a citizen of Israel, while "Jewish" is the

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So I will reiterate that "Israeli" is clearly the nationality here, not "Jewish". If you are of Jewish heritage, that is your ethinicity, but it is not necessarily your nationality. An American jew, for example, is not going to be governed by "Jewish law", will not have a "Jewish passport" or

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First, it is recognize in Wiki as a nation, in the Wiki definition. The definition does not adopt your construct. Second, it is far more complicated than you make it out to be. The Jewish nation was dispersed 2,000 years ago, from its geographic borders. It lives largely in the

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and the one prior to that. the nominator has argued that the cat is an example of WP:OC, although the guideline section seems to refer to categories containing individuals of a particular viewpoint (i.e. "Cat lovers", or "Iraq liberation opposition"). Anti-Islam sentiment, as with

3117:, there should be no categorization of sportpeople on racial/ethnic/religious grounds. The only resonable categorization is by nationality, not in the broadest sense of the term, but in terms of which country a person represents/would represent in an international competition. -- 2024:

Singled out for deletion? What are the other similiar ones? It's the only figure skaters by religion category. If you're not aware of stereotypes of skaters as being gay, I welcome you to google "figure skating" + "gay". As for someone being notable for their sexual orientation

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No argument for deletion has been given that does not apply equally or even more strongly to hundreds of other categories. For example, there is no LGBT style of figure skating, and figure skaters represent their countries, not their sexual activities. It is POV to single out

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There is no Jewish style of figure skating, and no one skates as a representative of the Jewish race. There is no connection between Jews and figure skating, just as there is no connection between green eyes and figures skating, so there is no reason to have this category.

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as examples in the case of Jewish ice skaters. There are many examples of Jewish athletes behind the Iron Curtain facing difficulties in their careers because they were Jewish, as well as Jews in anti-semitic countries such as Nazi Europe facing the same and greater

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activities), Rudy Galindo is very open about his, going so far as to play himself on Will & Grace. Brian Orser coming out, as I recall, was huge. And I really resent the implication that I'm singling out a Jewish topic for deletion just because it's Jewish.

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afford its citizens such protections and jurisdiction. Thus "Israeli" is the appropriate nationality for citizens of Israel, but "Jew" is instead an ethnicity that denotes cultural heritage without the legal sphere of influence implied by a nationality.

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The flaw in the above argument is that "Jewish" is not a nationality. It is an ethnicity or religion (depending on the context). "Israeli" would be a nationality. As I mentioned above nationalities are not handled the same way as ethnicities.

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First , I was just claming against one of the wikipedians that wrote :"Jews are not a nation". Secondly , Jewish people are also defined by their own religion (even if not practicing it) so you can categorize most of them by the religious

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per Dugwiki. As with eponymous categories for people, eponymous categories for TV series should be reserved for those with a great deal of material that can't easily be interlinked. That isn't the case here so both categories can go.

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was only classified as a bigamist because he didn't wait long enough on his divorce papers. In short, many of the category entries don't fit the legal definition of the term. If they did, I'd see no problem with the cat.

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for clarity, following the recent decision not to delete. This category is not delimited to children who were murdered by American people (through most of them were), and it has nothing to do with killings by the American

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To reply, you are making a faulty analogy between "Skaters by ethnicity" and "Skaters by nationality". It is generally accepted that a person's nationality does directly affect their careers in almost all cases, but it is

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I'm kind of on the fence, but I go with keeping the three more than removing the three. If it seems like removing all three is really desirable I might change my mind, but if you want those two nominated you can do

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is an example of the disfunctional nature of Knowledge (XXG), which you are proposing to make worse. If you change your vote you will help to create a precedent for deleting those inappropriate LGBT categories.

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Nevertheless, Eliyak is right - the articles would need to be upmerged, and if all the lower level categories were deleted, they would be upmerged to Jews. Or do people envsage that category being deleted

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Bigamy is a crime, a defining characteristic, and easy to define. Wrt to Pavel's point, there has been no legal or societal change towards acceptance of bigamy, it is just as significant as it ever was.

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Nominator's irrelevant side-note: I had listed these at speedy, but then I realized they didn't meet the criterion I thought they did. I'm in no particular hurry, so I've voluntarily moved them to CfD.

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Only the Jewish American sportspeople have such a category. In other words, for all non-Americans skaters, this is the only category that both mentions that they are Jewish and that they are skaters.

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In fact, when I looked at these categories, neither appears to be a necessary eponymous category for the TV series. Combined they have only four items, including the main article and the subcategory

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originating in the Israelites of the ancient Middle East and converts who joined their fold throughout the millennia by adopting their religion." Thus being jewish is a definition of a person's

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A nation is not the same thing as a country. Of course there is a Jewish nation, which is not identical withthe country of Israel. Still no explanation of why it is overcategorisation.--

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That approach would skew the process away from acting on community consensus on a case by case basis, towards an objective of maximising the number of deletions as an end in itself.

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I would add that, contrary to Dugwiki's bald assertion to the contrary, Jews are a nation under Wiki (even if not in Dugwiki's subjective view), as discussed in my above comment.--

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seems like the best choice. It's definitely a distinct category, and if we delete it, someone is likely to recreate it using the same inappropriate and obscure abbreviation.

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article could be written about the subject, not that the press might not occasionally publish human-interest articles about skaters focusing on their religion or ethnicity.

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can have an Israel passport or visa, would be governed by the national laws of Israel and could be employed by the Israeli government. The distinction is quite clear.

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that in reply to some of the "keep" recommendation comments - 1) If the intent is to intersect figure skaters by nationality, note that "Jewish" is not a nationality.

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Other religions are in the "normal case" distinct from the nation. In other words, there was not a Protestant, or Buddhist, or Christian, or Hindu, or Aethiest nation

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And, importantly, there are a number of Halls of Fame and lists and articles relating to Jewish athletes. "Jewish Sports Legends" is a book that one can find at

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going over yet again an issue that has essentially been addressed already, they refused. I trust, being an optimist, that this will be the last one of these. --

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Knowledge (XXG):Naming conventions (categories) Categorization of people (3.3 Heritage), which demonstrates that something such as "Jewish figure skaters" is

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as there are insufficient members to warrant categorization by country. I suspect that removing POV/OR issues will drop membership further. Also, should be

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Overcategorization. Covered under Jewish sportspeople. No reason to have seperate category. Why seperate figure skaters by religion? (Edited to add: I know

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Fair enough, but in most of the cases, no legal action was noted in the article (legal action was mostly on the historical English and British entries).

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Thus, in the (unusual) case of Jews, who consist of a nation that has largely been dispersed from its homeland, it would not be appropriate to delete.

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appear to have been made after posts to their talk pages. In addition, the same comments have been posted to several category talk pages like

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would be a related and proper by-nationality category. 2) The argument was that "other similar categories exist", which is a form of

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Anti-Christianity is deleted. If the others are not deleted (and it appears they have less consensus), this is an effective vote for

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The thing is it's unclear if "figure skaters by ethnicity" is done here, not even when it's a nationality. True there is

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This article is clearly being used to label people and organizations, and seems to be propaganda. It is not the same as

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if a category exists, so should its anti-category. This is just a matter of fairness towards varying points of view.

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to get more discussion on that, moreso because several of the "keep" arguments boil down to "it's been kept before".

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And I would say that you are misinterpreting the definition of "nationality", as well as the context of the article

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Actually, your comment that "no article has or could be written about Jewish figure skating is not quite accurate.

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There is no Jewish style of figure skating, and figure skaters represent their countries, not their ethnic groups.

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Upmerge any people who have not been categorized into the appropriate Jews by nationality category then delete.

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As most of the articles linked would be involving original research rather than confirmed fact, contrary to

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as non-defining per numerous precedents. No-one has an article because he belongs to a college fraternity.

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can be deleted as well. They seem to have been created as a response to the existance of this category.--

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already exist for Black Jews and various types of Jewish athletes other than Jewish figure skaters ...

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categories to exist. (except for the LGBT category being brought up as a total aside to this issue).

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should not. If it's approached that way, there's not a lot that can be said against the category. -

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Has anyone said that LGBT figure skaters WON'T be nominated? "JEWISH" is not a nation, Israeli is.

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Nobody can explain why this is an irrelevant intersection yet LGBT figure skaters is relevant.--

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may have had marriages annulled, but he was never convicted in a court of bigamy. Neither was

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last time along with another deal I withdrew. I probably won't this time, but it can be done.--

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I'd agree it's profoundly incorrect and possibly even a bit suspect. However comparing this to

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to "convicted bigamists" if we're going by that inclusion criterion. Finally, I would suggest

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Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion/Log/2006 December 27 § Category:Anti-Islam sentiment

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as well, since people were saying "well if that's ok so is this". I'm not sure either is ok.

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Concurrent citizenship may be reflected by duplicating the occupation (for example, Category:

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Their efforts were rejected. And yet, they are trying to do the same here. Editors such as

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A redirect is probably a good idea. This is one I would expect to keep returning otherwise.

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per Andrew c - well spotted! I still think an "Early printed Bibles" is the way to go here.

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because they were Jewish, is well documented. I again suggest that you look at the bios of

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per Epeefleche; there is no possible reason to delete this and keep say the LGBT category.--

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The following discussion is an archived debate regarding the category or categories above.

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There are sports where ethnicity has been an important part of their history. For example

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would count as one. (The Welsh category has only one name if you object to the analogy)--

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Skaters are categorised by state, not by ethnic group or nation, so you are advocating

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Deletion of the category Jewish sportspeople was already considered -- and rejected. --

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inference that the main category is a "pro"-Islam category is a load of old cobblers.

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Really? Please link to a Knowledge (XXG) policy that says that in so many words.--

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However, you are invited to participate and your opinion is welcome. Remember to

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In Knowledge (XXG) parlance categories and lists are two different systems.

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