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This category is extremely underpopulated, it's very probable that it never reaches four or entries, and doesn't help navigation, since being a scottish living in cuba does not make two articles be related. Same user has also created similar stuff like a redirect from "Ukrainian Texan" to "Ukrainian
1239:(category creator) "Profession" was used as that was the convention at the time; if it has developed to "occupation" then that's fine by me. And, although I personally find the category useful, if the trend is away from this particular way of organizing individuals, then that's fine too. 1096:. If the cat is meant to include non-religous professions it should be deleted as a not-notable intersection. If it's meant to include only religous-professions it should be deleted because it has limited potention for growth and can sensibly be included in 1637:, not Cuban, nationality and was not born in Cuba. She is really an American of mixed Scottish and Cuban descent. A category called "Scottish Cubans" should only include people of Scottish descent who hold Cuban nationality. 1218:- there are 3 appropriate subcats, each with many subcats. It is just a container category - without it, its subcategories are all still there but disconnected from the category structure. (There are no engineers so far in 1463:, the few templates in this recently created category serve the same purpose / are of the same type as those in the nominated merge target category; ie they're all templates used to cite particular sources. Redundant. 1201:, whose fiction was still heavily informed by his faith). This will undoubtedly lead to the creation of occupation categories that have no relation to the faith of those people categorized. 831:
The term is generally not applied to the successful song of a so-called "one-hit wonder" — an artist who is closely identified with one song because they have had no other successful songs.
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Typically these religion/occupation categories are (or at least should be) limited to occupations that have a notable intersection with the religion. The category is right now a sub of
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if the nominator read the list, they would see that there are strict criteria to the category. It involved external media calling the song a "signature song". --
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since there are 40, which makes picking them up from articles rather complicated. The category already has some list/article material.
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for deletion further down in today's CfD log. Appears to be overcategorization, and similar categories are being deleted of late.
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A well-known example is "Over the Rainbow" (which is considered by many to be the most popular song of the twentieth century).
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probably not needed for the 3 items in the cat, and seems to invite creation of Lutheran engineers, Lutheran teamsters, etc.
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per Johnbod. The family history of the descendents of this couple are probably among the most notable during the era.
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Okay, should have noticed the common scheme. But should be limited to occupations connected to religion.
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is sufficient to organize the family. Knowledge is not trying to be a genealogy project.
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per nom, largely on the basis of the other category being deleted.
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Index

Knowledge:Categories for discussion
Log
May 14
May 16
deletion review
Vegaswikian
talk
20:59, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Category:FC Luzern players
Category:FC Lucerne players
FC Lucerne
Lucerne
Canton of Lucerne
Punkmorten
talk
21:34, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Necrothesp
talk
13:50, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
brew
crewer
(yada, yada)
15:16, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
deletion review
deletion review
Vegaswikian
talk
21:08, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Category:Grandchildren of Paul I of Russia
edit

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