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1570:? Such categories would in fact be actively misleading for this article, because the two were in a public partnership, with no legal recognition, starting in 1953. And for all I know they registered their partnership with the city of San Francisco and/or the state of California after such partnerships became legally recognized, which would necessitate as many as four additional categories. 716:? These categories are in fact actively misleading for this article, because the two were in a public partnership, with no legal recognition, starting in 1953. And for all I know they registered their partnership with the city of San Francisco and/or the state of California after such partnerships became legally recognized, which would necessitate as many as four additional categories. 654:
We have enough 5% complete grand schemes rusting in the wikidesert as it is. How on earth would you do it automatically? Presently it can't even manage to find both notable partners in the years I've looked at. It is btw misnamed as it should be "people married in ...", not "marriages in". Otherwise,
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to do it. As noted above, if this category structure were fully implemented, Elizabeth Taylor, already in 24 categories, would gain eight marriage categories and seven divorce categories, along with presumably one "marriage ended by death of spouse" category. Her category list is in no way served by
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This seems like a fairly trivial way to categorise people. It could also lead to a slippery slope: 1988 baptisms, 1988 university graduates, 1988 home buyers, 1988 amputees, and so forth. So I suggest deletion (along with, though I suspect that requires a separate nomination, the parent category,
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to label same-sex partnerships as the same thing as "marriage" and the constant POV battles that we will fight over such inclusions? Are we also going to set up categories for every iteration of legal same-sex relationships throughout the world? To give a specific example,
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to label same-sex partnerships as the same thing as "marriage" and the constant POV battles that we will fight over such inclusions? Are we also going to set up categories for every iteration of legal same-sex relationships throughout the world? To give a specific example,
1541:, who also married in 1969. There are no reliable sources that indicate that the years that notable people choose to marry are in any way related to years that other notable people (absent those who marry another notable person) marry. There is also the question of 1344:, since they are in essence conjoined categories, created just one minute apart. As to the rationale, there are two other things worth noting. First, to the best of my knowledge, we don't actually have any articles that are, in fact, about particular marriages 1502:
would get seven marriage categories, five divorce categories and one "marriage ended by annulment" category, with the possibility of more. That would make two out of every three of his categories relating to marriage and divorce dates. This way madness lies.
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per nom and convention. I need new eyes, just for the record; I misread the current category name as "The Postal Service shingles" and wondered what that could possibly be about until I blinked and looked again.
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were married in 2004, had their marriage voided by the California supreme court in 2004 and re-married legally in 2008 and remained so until Martin's 2008 death. So they should be in
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were married in 2004, had their marriage voided by the California supreme court in 2004 and re-married legally in 2008 and remained so until Martin's 2008 death. So they should be in
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I just had a truly inspired thought: If we keep these and create whole category structures for both marriage and divorce by year, we would then be in a position to categorize by
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because it and the other such cateogries can be done automatically. We should in general move towards structure of this kind--it is one of the facilities offered by a database.
89:(As an aside, does anyone else find it weird that from the 1800s onward the majority of the articles in these categories were Mormons? Do only Mormons get married anymore?) 21: 634:
Johnbod, what makes a category "clearcut trivia"? If the data is available, we should use it. Probably we should set it up to be do automatically.
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given by these categories to legal marriage, a categorization scheme that either excludes the vast majority of LBGT couples or requires
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all. What year a person got married doesn't tell you anything meaningful about why they're in an encyclopedia.
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by year. Speak of a slippery slope -- just imagine the category clutter on
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Oh no. I thought we had nipped this in the bud! By all means,
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per nom - very trivial. (There is only one article so far:
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rename. I know a good ophthamologist in Kingston, Bearcat
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion
Log
September 30
October 2
deletion review
Good Ol’factory
07:22, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Category:1284 marriages
Category:1291 marriages
Category:1343 marriages
Category:1350 marriages
Category:1393 marriages
Category:1396 marriages
Category:1406 marriages
Category:1452 marriages
Category:1464 marriages
Category:1509 marriages
Category:1509 marriages
Category:1534 marriages
Category:1559 marriages
Category:1565 marriages
Category:1581 marriages
Category:1627 marriages
Category:1757 marriages
Category:1759 marriages
Category:1781 marriages
Category:1784 marriages
Category:1790s marriages
Category:1795 marriages
Category:1796 marriages

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