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most readers that "magic user" will never have. Using descriptions of a character's primary background from the source work or in references in reliable sources will satisfy the inclusion criteria. The proposed term "characters who use magic" is not only unfamiliar and arbitrary, but would be even more overbroad, including anyone who pulls a rabbit out of a hat or does a card trick. With "witch" we can look for a rather specific and defining description and set of traits; with "magic user" we're making completely subjective interpretations that even adding the word "related" won't help. Furthermore, I am baffled by the rules of the CfD deletion game, which appear to tolerate an unlimited number of efforts to delete categories, even after a clear consensus is reached for retention. Once a category is deleted, any attempt to recreate the category -- even after addressing any possible concerns, legitimate or otherwise -- is routinely slapped down as "recreation of a previously deleted category" without any consideration of changes or procedural technicalities. If it were up to me, I'd start swinging with that same stinking whale carcass I invoked in my earlier vote.
2223:; neither article mentions the term), but a great many of the articles in this category are about things that are current. A Google search turns up a variety of conflicting answers to the question of what this term means, which would make it very difficult to produce a coherent category. The category is applied to a whole bunch of topics and biographies that don't mention the term at all, which makes it especially suspect... categories aren't supposed to be in the business of revealing something about the topic that isn't discussed in the article. 1745:"Opera houses" is not the same thing as "Opera companies" and we are not bound by how Commons names similar categories. If you review in your example what is categorized as "of Germany" and what is categorized as "German" you will find that inanimate objects and other non-human things are categorized as the former and that humans are categorized as the latter. It is not at all confusing to readers for this uniformity to be extended to this category and indeed uniformity in naming convention. 4121:" -- a fact that wasn't touched on in this discussion. Whatever one's preference of name for this head category, any renaming should only proceed in a separate CFD that includes all of those sub-cats (none of which were tagged for this CFD), and not as part of a group renaming proposal for other, unrelated categories. So regardless of any concensus that may exist with respect to other categories, I strongly recommend closing out this particular category as 3484:
exist in the real world. These are fictional creations. When an author or other creator of fiction defines a character, the fact that the character of "witch" is chosen is rather deliberate. The author could have chosen any of a number of alternate titles, or simply called them a "character who uses magic". They didn't. They used the word "witch".
3271:, why shouldn't witches? And I stand by my comments in the other CFD in that "keep and patrol" never works (yes, I know nobody said that here, but when people are complaining because this was "too close" to the prior CFD, then those people are confirming that decision. Otherwise, they'd come up with actual reasons to keep). -- 3516:
cases should be dealt with on a case-by-case basis for inclusion or exclusion from within each category. In this case, for each questionable witch you could offer, I could suggest a dozen questionable "magic users". The broader parent of "characters who use magic" solves nothing and only makes for an even bigger muddle.
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where I said I would be relisting this discussion, I addressed the issue of whether this nomination was "too soon" or not, and decided that based on the specific circumstances, it was not. Therefore, I'd like to see a discussion on the merits of the proposal from here-on out. So far we have two users
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has much to do with this current proposal, especially after dismissing Nrswanson's pointing to the discussion of that very issue at the Opera Project. After all, the idea to rename all categories to "Opera companies in foo" (note "in") was not subject of that CFD and was only raised very late in that
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to avoid excesse verbiage & legalism. There are two or three which are ambiguous, (I do not think there were any pre-columbian, Etruscan scholars, Biblical, scholars, and Legal scholars is unambiguous.(there are 2 or 3 people who might count as anglo-Saxons who were scholar) , but other I would
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While some of your assertions aren't accurate (not every member of this cat was called a "witch" by their author, and in some cases, a particular character may have been written (and therefore defined variously) by more than a single author, such as the case in serial fiction like radio, television,
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First, it's been over a month and a half; Second, the original nomination was for deletion, this is for merger; Third, they closed as "no consensus" which means that they can be renominated at any time; and finally, Fourth, the closer even suggested renomination. (Which is why I question whether you
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no consensus. Honestly, I can't see much movement on this issue since the last CfD, primarily because no wave of new users participated in a discussion on the merits (and those who have opposed changes to the categories in the past have not modified their positions in any substantive way here, which
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When authors and creators of fiction develop characters, they endow them with a series of characteristics. While hair color or name may be arbitrary, making a character a witch is a strong deliberate choice as a defining characteristic. The term "Witch" has a rather clear definition in the minds of
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per nom. Clearly there are problems with the current names. There is no abuse of process in this nomination. In fact process recommends a follow on nomination when there is no consensus especially for lack of consensus for what the name should be. While this option may not have been proposed in
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per Occuli, which more closely matches the article title, with the exception of the dash issue. I agree with Otto that the non-typable character is a barrier to navigation and should be avoided. My only question is that we should probably develop a broad standard on this issue and address it with a
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I have really no preference either way, but neither can I see any advantage at all in the renaming of these categories, given the current overall situation. It seems to me it's way too late to attempt a comprehensive process to create uniformity in the naming of categories; it follows that there is
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is listed as a subdefinition). Assuming you mean to exclude abilities such as conjuring rabbits out of top hats with the wave of a white-tipped plastic stick and assuming that you're sticking with the kind that means "anything that is not explainable by any laws of science" we have no better of a
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to include characters in this cat. Seems to me smarter to be cognizant of common practice, and merely change the name. By changing from suggesting the application of a "label", to the already established "superhuman power", we allow for the variance in author definition and appellation (warlocks,
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The traditional counterargument is that there is that there is some case that might be a borderline witch, therefore the entire category must be eliminated. This is a useless argument in general, as there are questionable cases that can be raised in any and all categories, and these questionable
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I like the semantic hoops of calling "merge" the same as "rename". The proposal will move 160 articles for the far-better-defined character of "witch" into the completely undefined catchall of "characters who use magic". Whether we're talking about Witches or Martians (or Atlanteans), they don't
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The reason I made reference to the Martians CFD is because you raised the same argument about different authors having different notions as to what a "Martian" is, just as you've argued vis-a-vis Witches. That argument was soundly rejected in the case of Martians, as it should be here. Merged or
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grouped with other, similar entries. Often, that's a benefit to navigation. Category diffusion should only be used when necessary, and while perhaps a case could be made for keeping Martians separate from the broader extra-terrestrials, there is no such benfit here. What all
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other than the nominator who support the merge, and one comment opposing. Below, please express your support or opposition to the substance of the proposal only. Those who previously made comments on purely procedural grounds are of course welcome to make a new comment.
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Even with subtle variations in definition, my sources say that "witch" is a rather well-defined characteristic, supported by ample reliable and verifiable sources. I do enjoy the technique of just stating that something is "vague" and therefore requires a list.
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This goes well above and beyond the usual and customary abuse of process that we tolerate here for some unknown reason. Six weeks is hardly long enough to show any change in consensus. Making a minor tweak to the terms of your demands hardly changes anything.
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acts to counterbalance those who support the changes). Just to be clear (and because the meaning of past closes for these categories have apparently been misunderstood), this discussion demonstrates that there is no consensus for renaming, deletion,
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There have been previous rename attempts using en-dash in category names (but not any with em-dash as far as I know). Consensus has been elusive. I would myself support a rename of the parent and sister categories to 'Law - Newark'.
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The last CFD for "fictional witches" closed October 8. The renomination was November 13. In what universe is that "over a month and a half"? The Marvel and DC witches CFD closed October 2. Again, not "over a month and a half".
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As the intention of the category system is to help readers navigate to groups of articles with similar characteristics, these characters deserve to be meaningfully categorized by how their creators defined them.
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the first discussions it is a very reasonable follow on to try and achieve consensus for a better name for these categories. This needs to be discussed on the merits and not on some presumed process violation.
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for Classical scholars, noting an outstanding classics v. classical issue and the subcategories issue. For clarity, this should probably be re-nominated either by itself or with its subcategories.
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per nom. "UNO Mavericks" appears frequently on omavs.com itself and does not appear to be incorrect or deprecated; however, the latter form appears to be much more common as well as less ambiguous. -
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I say I have read the debates, and so you offer to provide a link to one? Even for you, the absence of logic seems striking (never mind the baffling comment below - but please don't explain it).
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It is a holdover after we merged all but Luffy. Currently it holds only Luffy's article and the main list and is likely to not expand for the foreseeable future. It have posted a CfD tag on it.
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This was apparently a "catch-all" cat, from before the target cat above existed. Many of the members aren't actually called "witches", but simply are female characters who use magic.
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Sure, we can keep on talking in semantic circles that there is no hard and fast definition for "witch", but there is none for any word in the English language, even for "magic".
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We should at least be consistently vague and subjective, no? No point in having this as sui generis when it can at least conform to what already exists, at least for now.
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The s in "scholars" should not be capitalized in any case, but I agree that this is a better construction than "Scholars of Foo" which has bugged me for well over a year.
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have in common is that the author called the character a "witch". In most of these cases, that simply isn't the case. And as others have noted, it's been a common act of
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No one is suggesting deleting the categories and the discussion to which you linked does not address the issue of "Fooian opera companies" vs "Opera companies of Foo".
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be categorised, just instead, the category for each will be due to the character's ability to inherently use magic, rather than by the variously defined label "witch".
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Okay, you got my attention, jc -- I couldn't figure out why my ears kept tingling every time I glanced at this page... Since you invoked my name, here's what I think:
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Um, actually I read the discussions as they were ongoing. Like the ones for these categories that closed out barely a month ago. So, yeah, still gonna have to go with
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or comics); I find it interesting that the whole of your arguement would seem to support listification, due to vagueness of inclusion criteria. (Due to both "magic"
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There are no inclusion criteria on the category page, "clearly-defined" or otherwise. Why comment if you're not even going to bother to look at the category first?
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I'm not sure how that applies here. Martians wasn't being suggested for merging. (That wasn't even discussed.) This is about merging from a non-specific
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Per precedent (see below), albums should not be categorized by producer unless the producer has an article, and again I see no proof that Irwin meets
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If they are not so described, and are merely practicing some form of magic, move their articles into the parent cats. And a word to the wise, jc: be
2443:--if you folks feel that the Em-dash shouldn't be used, then maybe we should rename the parent and sister categories as well. What do you think? -- 862:- Aside from being mis-spellled, this is a single-article category with little potential for expansion. Upmerge the article to the lone parent cat. 2768: 1138:. Reserve team managers are not notable positions in and of themselves, but it is noteworthy that the person concerned was employed by that club. 1096: 3203:
The problem with that idea is that every author (as noted) defines the term differently. And thus this falls under "vague inclusion criteria". -
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I'll be happy to provide a link to the previous discussion (noting, of course, that it's already the first discussion link in the nom, above). -
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as a useless category. Alternatively, you could have completely emptied it (by recategorizing Luffy, the char list, and the redirect cats under
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Per precedent, albums should not be categorized by producer unless the producer has an article, see below. I see no proof that Brockbank meets
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I just checked to be sure that none of the other categories included in DGG's proposal share this problem, and it seems this is the only one.
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You mentioned that you hadn't been "in any of the other debates" in response to my question of whether you read the links provided. So I was
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Just to be clear, there was no "clear consensus ... reached for retention" in the previous CfDs. They were all closed as "no consensus".
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No objective definition is needed. Use reliable and verifiable sources to evaluate if they meet the clearly-defined inclusion criteria.
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in order to allow for a properly noticed and structured CFD to take place (assuming that DGG or another editor wishes to pursue this).
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Thank you for clarifying your reasoning. As for "lost", the goal here is and should be navigation. In a merge, all the members are
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Except of course that the linked discussion, as already noted, does not address Fooian opera companies vs Opera companies of Foo.
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paying attention to the Russia and Soviet Union issue. Note, I also made a minor correction to the Switzerland target cat.
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no gainful point to the proposed exercise, it's a waste of time and resources, bound to confuse readers and editors alike.
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Yes, in a short break from my trolling activities. I might point out I did not participate in any of the other debates.
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article lists dozens upon dozens of forms of magic and magical traditions. It leaves us with nothing but a muddle.
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Personally, I am ambivalent, but I am swayed by the argument that the opera folks prefer the current titles.
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Are you OK? (If you are going to introduce Australians for whatever reason, their preferred spelling is
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If it helps, consider this a rename. It's only a "merge", because the category name already exists. -
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And finally, having these separate would seem to be a hindrance, rather than a help, to navigation.
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as "witches" (or are said to be practicing "witchcraft"), leave their articles in these categories.
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I oppose the suggested rename as it is every bit as vague and subjective as "points of interest".
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differently, as noted even in the Knowledge (XXG) article noted in the nom.) The characters will
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per keepers. Perhaps we can at least get a consensus that it is too soon to be revisiting these.
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First, even if we go from the closures rather than the date of nomination (September 23), that's
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substantial consensus either way, rather than deal with the issue one category at a time.
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So, uhhh, what's this category about? Knowledge (XXG) doesn't have a proper article on "
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there is support for renaming these subcats to follow other similar category structures.
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which differs and varies depending on how each author defines it. (And they define it
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Since what? Since no consensus? Again, did you even read the previous closure? -
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However, rather than outright deletion, I'm proposing to merge these instead. -
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retention of the categories in question. Thus, they are kept "as is" by default
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Circular category. The only albums they produced are ones they also recorded.
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characters have in common, is that they use magic. What they actually all
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PS: On Commons, as in the above mentioned CFD, these categories are named
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Biblical, Etruscan, Legal, and Pre-Columbian at their current names. --
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using his pen-name is better than choosing between his actual names.
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Anglo-Saxon, Feminist, Islamic, Middle East, and Religious per DGG.
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion
Log
November 30
December 2
deletion review
Vegaswikian
talk
23:21, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Category:Manhattan Transfer albums
Category:The Manhattan Transfer albums
Ten Pound Hammer
21:47, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
deletion review
deletion review
Tiptoety
22:01, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Category:Albums produced by Level 42
edit
talk
history
links
watch
logs
Ten Pound Hammer
21:43, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
deletion review
deletion review
Tiptoety
22:02, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Category:Albums produced by Bobby Irwin

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