1122:. This proposal makes sense of course, but it would create also a dangerous precedent. ALL cities and towns in Central and Eastern Europe changed frequently their names, as they were falling under administration of different states. The logic presented in the nomination would mean splitting all of them, thus creating complete chaos. And I don't even talk about towns in borderlands, which were "transfered" from one state to another as much as five times during last 150 years. -
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256:. If ghits are anything to go by, "Westies" primarily means West Highland white terriers. For US-only ghits, the terriers account for 17 of the top 20 hits - compared with only one for the crime family and (surprisingly) two for people from West Auckland. Even searching for "Westies + Manhattan" turns up sites for the dogs before ones for the crime organization! I'd like to propose
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1383:Category:Embrace (U.S. band) albums
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2918:Category:Sports venues in Delaware
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2582:Category:San Jose State University
2578:Category:San José State University
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694:Category:American indie pop groups
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2482:Category:Unitarian Universalists
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1519:Category:Choice (rapper) albums
818:Nominator's rationale: Merging.
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323:Westies (criminal organization)
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2498:I agree with Peterkingiron. --
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971:Nominator's rationale: Rename.
588:for Black Flag related bands.
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