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3488:-- I am suggesting that the parent category should be "rulers" not monarchs. This should be a parent to rulers by country. The article contents of each category should be distributed by country, as the present category is a hotch-potch, which is too wide-ranging to be useful. It is too much to expect the closing admin to distribiute the contents, probably creating carious new categories in the process, so that initially the articles may need to be transferred (temporarily) to a continuing monarchs category, but this should be emptied by distributing the contents to (new) subcategories. Ultimately the monarchs by centuries categories should disappear and the rulers by century categories should primarily be parents to rulers by country and century categories. (Perhaps my previous comments have eben inconsistent). WE should not have articles both in parent and daughter categories, asa matter of principle. 1980:- This is exactly my problem with this category, the key part being what I emphasised - Some people go through user categories and simply add everything that applies to them, regardless of interest. This is why categorizing users by a characteristic they can't choose is meaningless. Some may indeed wish to collaborate, while others have no knowledge or interest on their ancestry and simply add the category to their userpage because it applies. A far better name for a category geared towards collaboration would be 3574:, etc. and these should (generally) be the ones to contain articles. I still think that a "continental" category for the Islamic world (which staddled Europe, Asia and Africa) might be useful, but this would either have to be a subcategory of the continental ones or the scope of those would need to be limited by measn of a headnote. I was suggesting a temporary continuing "monarchs category" for the articles to be placed in pending distribution to "by country" categories. I would hope that 3350:-- I think the "rulers" category would make a good parent, for monarchs, head of government, and viceroys, but the articles should mostly be in monarchs, not rulers. I am not sure how this will be best achieved. It may be by the closing admin merging rulers to monarchs and then re-creating the rulers to be a new parent, but with a headnote discouraging it from being populated with articles. 3714:. This strange slash was introduced everywhere into the club's name on the English-language Knowledge (XXG). They write their name with a space. Dash would have made sense for a combination, but they chose not to introduce. Space, which they chose, is fine. Slash would mean it is one club or another, rather than Beitar Tel Aviv and Shimshon Tel Aviv combined, and makes no sense whatsoever. 3403:-- Monarch usually implies King or emperor, whereas ruler is broader and the use of this term would enable, viceroys, regents, etc to be included. German princes in Flanders, Saxony, etc, who had at least an element of severeignty could also appear, but these should primarily be parent categories, with few actual articles. 1085:, but I don't have strong feelings as to which direction. This is actually one of the few examples where the genus actually is used as the common name with some frequency. Nevertheless, it may be better to go with the article title for the category and let the discussion of which name to use take place there. -- 1296:-- too vague, possibly even an attack category (not sure). To me as an Englishman a Conservative is a member of a certain political party; a conservative is a person holding a certain kind of view (usually traditionalist), but a person may have a conservative attitude in one area and a liberal one in another. 3330:
Mais oui!'s point is fair. In my experience of usage, a monarch is a ruler with no sovereign, but undeniably the duke of Saxony, counts of Flanders, earls of Northumbria, Lords of Galloway, and so on, are still rulers and are described as such in literature. Most rulers in the period of the cats in
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As I indicated before (9:08 pm, 21 October) I still do not understand what you are suggesting. Your statements conflict. How would "rulers... make a... parent, for monarchs, head of government" at all? How would we "reverse merge" and yet "these... be parent categories, with few actual articles"?
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as valid in the first place, merely a collection of little facts about each memember. Of course, if you plan on editing categories regarded your own ethnicity, then ancestry may come into play, as Debresser has stated - though I must admit that I really do not wish to edit Breton or Briton topics
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I would actually keep all "ancestry" categories, because it is very likely that users who have a common ancestry would like to work together on articles related to their common ancestry. Note that often expatriates or people of a cetain ancestry, in short those who do not live in their ancestral
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These look like questionable edits to me. That being said, I think now that this issue has been brought to this forum, it's best to give everyone the benefit of the doubt and leave the issue in the past. But if these types of edits continue they should be brought to an admin's attention.
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If that category doesn't "benefit the encyclopedia", then neither do any of the ethnicity categories either. SO if delete that, you would have to delete the others. Ethnicity on an English encyclopedia (with the possible acception of the ethnicities that speak the English language) is as
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as that implies someone from Brittany and people of Breton descend that claim Bretonic heritage), but I do think that ancestry is meaningless in regards to editing style for the most part and thus agree with you, VegaDark. And I think that actually genetics is always meaningless.
3560:-- at least for the categories under discussion. If we did a "reverse merge" per your vote then it would undo most of this. If you want it to be like this then you should change your vote to "keep." PS-- I do not understan your comments re a "continuing monarchs category," 3176:- I feel that it is important that participants in this deiscussion are made aware of the fact that the proposer has been going round emptying these cats AND blanking them, in explicit contradiction of WP:CFD instructions. Eg. please see the Users edits on 7 October. -- 1934:
actually refers to ancestry. Just look at the Gaelic category ("the blood of the Gaels runs through their vains"). I care little about genetics or the outdated concept of race, however, ancestry matters to those who care about the culture they are descended from.
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To me the edits on that date just look like the user was taking a category and creating a subcategory within it, believing that "monarchs" would be a subcategory of "rulers". If I had to guess, I would say the user worked on this for a bit and then decided that
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even while the parent categories will be mostly all empty? --or maybe have one article? Does this go for the 16 monarch categories for Asia also? What about the 13 monarch categories for Africa, or the 16 for the Middle East, or the many yet to be created?
2165:- First and foremost, this category has no indication it is a user category so it at minimum needs some sort of rename. However, categorizing those users who use Symantec products does not benefit the encyclopedia so I would strongly prefer deletion. 1945:, pray tell? Yes, you can gain citizenship but you cannot quite change your ethnicity (and in the case of some countries (e.g. the UK) you cannot lose your nationality if you are born into it). So you have no real, valid argument in my opinion. 2179:
But there are other user catagories that does NOT benifit Knowledge (XXG) as well. Such catagories includes Users who use Internet Explorer, User using Microsoft Windows, etc. If I rename the catagory, will you consider not deleting it?
1313:. I've wondered about this. I don't think this category is any different than the "neoconservatives" category, and people are probably less likely to self-identify as a "paleoconservative", as it has a bit more of a negative tinge to it. 1915:, "Wikipedians by ancestry" categories do not support collaboration (i.e. don't benefit the encyclopedia), as you can't choose your ancestry so categorizing such users together is as meaningless as categorizing users by eye color. 3195:
the articles would belong in the subcategory, so he decided to do a rename proposal. (Carlaude can correct me if this guess is wrong.) Is there a diff you could provide for "blanking" of the categories? I couldn't see one.
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Note also that I caught the User removing the "rulers" cat from several medieval rulers, often adding the "monarchs" or "vice-regal" cats to neither monarchs nor vice-regal rulers, in his attempt to empty the
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Good point, however I also changed the name of the article and many of the links. I explained the rationale for all changes, without justifying by means of the name of an article that I had just set myself.
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I will also point out that a host of issues with this proposal will result from the fact that the idea of country is a modern idea. Even with the "category by continent" it can sometimes be hard to figure
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monarchs? I've never heard to the referred to as such - and if they weren't, the two category names are not going to contain identical article lists. There also appear to be a handful of regents listed.
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Many monarchs in history are pagan, Eastern, etc. I do not think a split between Christian and Muslim would work well. If needed, it would be better to create monarchs by area-- like
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I'm ok with this, though perhaps Cooking tools should then be a meta-category under kitchenware, but including Cooking utensils and (the existing category) Cooking appliances.
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thru the 10th-century. I don't even have the 21st century done yet, much less the 11th to the 20th. If you have a bot that can be used for this then it might go a bit faster.
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Category:Eating utensils has been broken out (both should be under Category:Kitchenware). Also, the stub category is called Category:Cooking tool stubs already.
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hasn't had a CfD, although I don't particularly think "Wikipedians by web browser" categories are very helpful. Either way, you should see
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as the difference is not at all almost imperceptible. For the overlap, categorize "campaign managers" also under political consultants.
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I think there is a conceivably huge difference between a "campaign manager" and a "political consultant".
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question are not monarchs. Renaming this cat narrows the meaning, so this has to be accommodated.
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion
Log
October 19
October 21
deletion review
postdlf
talk
18:42, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Category:Dio
Category:Dio (band)
Dio (band)
Dio
Good Ol’factory
00:00, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Debresser
talk
20:06, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
gidonb
talk
11:23, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
deletion review
deletion review
postdlf
talk
18:56, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Category:Can
Category:Can (band)
Can (band)
Can
Good Ol’factory

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