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For editors who type category names in (as opposed to reaching a category through click browsing), it would help such a user to know what to type so he or she did not have to guess if he or she should type "Fooers" or "Fooian people". If there was a broad consistency that when "Fooers" or "Fooian
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2403:. This is another in a series of similar proposals. Propose changing "Peruvians" to "Peruvian people" and changing the format of some of these categories from the old "Booian-Foos" naming system in order to standardize them and conform them with other similar categories, the parent
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825:Tamil epics
636:epic poetry
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