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936:"naval history" includes a great deal more than battles and operations. It is doctrine (Mahan's ideas), budgets, training, logistics, admirals, life & psychology of sailors, roles of women (WAVES), technology (like radar, proximity fuze), and overall strategy (eg Europe First or Pacific First), none of which fit under "battles and operations." Furthermore "naval history" is the terminology used by the reliable sources. as in 404:
is a well-defined region. My question is whether it is sufficiently homogeneous to have a different flora from the tideway to the east and the Midwest to the west. As defined it stretches from just north of Alabama to the Canadian border, surely with a significnat climatic range, from temperate to
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which is just about...everything?) that I wish would just disappear. I know some are worthwhile for drawing thematic connections between created works on similar themes but these "Things in fiction" (trees, trains, bubble gum--just kidding) would be better in a list, and even the value of that is
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This is a cultural region. Also, being present in it will not be defining for widely spread flora. The flora may define Appalachia, which means we can have a list, but Appalachia does not define the flora.
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The Japanese and French articles belong under WWII cat, but the others don't - if we cetegorized navies by every war they had been in then some navies (e.g. USN and RN) would be in a lot of categories.
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By definition any article about World War II is about history so it's unhelpful/unnecessary to include the word "history" in the category name. We already have categories such as
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since we have a big problem classifying flora and fauna by any geographic definition. So trying to extend that to a cultural region is clearly foolish.
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lots of wars = lots of categories. yes that is how history works. Leaving the US navy out of WW2 seems like a mistake & will not help ANY readers.
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It's not a political division, at least not in any meaningful sense. If it needs a disambiguator, (region) would probably be best. --
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only because "time limits" is a fuzzy descriptor and is ill-defined. All time is limited. How is this distinguishing?
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Budgets article? Not yet but I am working on it using some Harrison data. Note that many major articles such as
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as above. I second the renaming, with my apologies for the over-capitalization, thus we now have C2E as well. --
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subtropical. It (presumably) covers both the heights of the mountains and a lower area to their east.
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should work. There are links from articles about the USN to articles about WWII and vice-versa.
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deals with a social grouping, which means flora has no reason to be categorized as such. --
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per nom. We should not have categories for every individual thing that might happen to be
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per nom. I'm also slightly displeased that these Universities don't churn out
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pilots and giant robots that smash the living daylights out of sea monsters
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as a C2A — a straightforward situation like this doesn't require debate.
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characteristic of a university. Many of the articles in the category (
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Being (or having been) a member of this association is not generally a
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These would normally fit speedy deletion criteria (C2C with
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Another dreaded "in fiction" category (I just came across
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Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion
Log
March 17
March 19
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Good Ol’factory
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Category:Italian Logicians
Category:Italian logicians
Greg Bard
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Bearcat
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Category:Logicians by nationality
BDD
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Soujak
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WP:CFDS
BDD
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