470:"American". The United States today is so ethnically diverse and countless people there have no common ethnic background with one another, so one can't really say one is of "American descent" simply because he or she had ancestors who lived in America (unless referring to Native American ancestors). If this category and its subcategories (which can be found in its page) were used to list people of Native American descent, they should be
661:. I would say that all nationals-descent categories should also be so renamed to separate ethnic descent from nationals descent, since many ethnic groups shares names with countries, but many ethnic group traditional homelands are spread across multiple countries, and long term ethnic enclaves outside their home ranges have existed for centuries for some groups. --
234:-- Having such a department may well be far too common: what next? those with chiropody, gynocology ... I regard this as a performance (speciality) by performer (hospital) category. This may not strictly apply, but the underlying reasons for banning award winners and performance categories certainly apply.
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Brazilian can stand, if American falls. It actually is a very US centric bias to claim "American" is not an ethnicity. Anyone outside the US would argue there are one or more clear ethnic American groups.
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Germany to an American father and a German mother. She was clearly at age 3 a German of American descent. We have lots of articles on people in various other countries who notably have ancestors from the United States. If we are going to scrpa this one, so goes
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148:. It is not clear that having a department of any kind is defining for a hospital. Most hospitals have tens to scores of departments. So if this was allowed we would have an unmanageable list of categories for every hospital.
678:-- This is a contianer category. Here I think that "American" is being used as a synonym of USA. This should perhaps be clarified in a headnote. However, "native American" should be a separate tree.
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