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408:-- As far as I recall there were no ruling Empresses, at least not until the Byzantine Empire. The objection can be adequately dealt with by adding explanation on a headnote that they were consorts, not rulers. In the same way most British queens were queens consort, not queens regnant. However since Queen Anne, male consorts have been Prince Consort. Imperator literally measn commander. Imperatrix being its feminine form implies his wife. 363:
mean "wife of someone reigning" is hypercorrect; in English sources the empresses are often described as wives, but seldom if ever consorts; that term as applied to the wife of a monarch as opposed to a woman ruling in her own right is somewhat anachronistic, as the distinction did not exist in Roman times. The word may indeed appear as an alternative to "wife" for simple variety (after all, its basic
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In English usage, the wife of an emperor is an empress, no matter what her official title was in her native language. English-language sources routinely discuss the wives of Augustus, Claudius, Nero, etc. as empresses, and have done for centuries. Requiring the use of the word "consort" simply to
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There is no category for Western Roman Empresses and I don't think that there should be one. This category covers both East and West. It's a common categorisation. As such it should embrace the Eastern convention of active, powerful Empresses, who were not mere consorts. WEre they even consorts in
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I'm not really sure, but from our articles it appears that "palliative medicine" is a bit more inclusive than "pain management". If that is the case, I would leave things as they are, otherwise we might need to create another cat for those journals that are on palliative care specifically. At 25
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I'm concerned that bio article suffer from "obituary bias" and include anything in those as defining for the entire life, even when they are mundane. That being said, unparenting these questionable categories does nothing to improve the bio articles or to improve navigation.
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It would make more sense to rename them "Wives," but the use of the word "Empress" in this specific context is traditional, and I don't see any compelling reason to deprecate it. The question of whether the Romans themselves used (or at least preferred) the title of
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is "wife"), but never for the technical purpose for which it's used in modern times. So it makes no sense to rename the categories from "Empresses" to "Consorts," which would imply an anachronistic meaning.
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cause sub-cats should be deleted. I can't imagine anyone is wishing to delete all the subcats, so this parent should stay.
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administrative close: speedily deleted per comments below. As noted, speedy deletion was probably also available under
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It is not a defining characteristic for the politicians in this category that they have attended a meeting of the
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was deleted in 2007 (I was the deleting admin in 2007, I note with amusement, 4 days after I became an admin...)
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I guess you made a procedural mistake, probably you meant to nominate the child categories (but you didn't).
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I deleted this category as I had concerns about BLP and none of the entries were sourced. --
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Nominating the whole category and subcats as, in the main, a lot of these seem redundant
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out of respect, despite having no formal titles or powers in the modern sense.
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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories.
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per above. You won't "more accurately describe" the several journals that
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I meant to say keep all/delete natural type thing. I've clarified above.
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about palliative care, & there doesn't seem much need to split.
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Most of the journals in this category are more in the field of
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion.
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The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion.
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members, I don't think that this cat is too large. --
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Withdrawn - will nominate relevant subcats instead.
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Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion
Log
March 10
March 12
talk page
deletion review
G4
Good Ol’factory
22:37, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
Category:List Of Bilderberg Participants
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talk
history
links
watch
logs
Bilderberg Group
List of Bilderberg participants
Bencherlite

20:40, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
"Bilderberg Attendees"
"Bilderberg attendees"
Bencherlite

20:56, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
John
talk
21:13, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
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