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An absolutely vague category encompassing nearly every writer in the US. Did they write "about" the south, and if so, one book or all of them? Were they born "in the South", or moved there? Are modern writers from
Atlanta, with no meaningful connection to Dixie, to be included? Impossibly vague.
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in some of his works might seem to fit this, however he produced most of his work while resident in either
California or Connecticut, and much of his work would be part of Western Literature or New England literature. Unlike in the case of Westerns, where it is clear it is a genere, it is unclear
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508:"Prehistory" is an awfully fuzzy identifier. But I don't see the value in narrowly defined categories in this area which results in a lot of small or underpopulated categories. So, I think merging and renaming is preferable if these categories are kept.
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whether this is a genre of the work or based on the creator being in some way "Southern". Lastly the boundaries of the south are too contested for easy classification. Many
Southerners will deny that Maryland is part of the south for example.
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Southern literature," is atrocious, from an aesthetic standpoint. I don't think many people will be confused about the meaning of a category that is entitled "
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