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273:- It looks like it already exists. Sigh. Ok, so after going over this, and also in relation to the several other cats nominated, I think medieval people (and maybe medieval events) should in general be split between early, high, and late middle ages. This will help navigation for readers (and spare them the headache I got in trying to sift through this all), and may help solve the problems of the Norwegian and Scotland cats too. Then have a medieval location cat as parent. So in this case, renaming to: 422:-- By convention we categorise according to contemporary polities, not their modern successors. Romania was a 19th century invention, because both Wallachia and Moldovia chose the same king. Transylvania was added after WWI at the expense of Hungary. We should have categories for the three constituent part of the country. 232:! Nevertheless it should be relatively easy to build categories for medieval people of Hungary, Moldavia, Wallachia and Transylvania, if only because they had their own medieval rulers. Besides "medieval" is highly discriminating in these countries as Middle Ages ended with the occupation by the Ottoman Empire. 857:
No one was collaborating with Nazi Germany while a subject of the Ottoman Empire. That some people who did the former had been the later does not make it a worthwhile overlap to categorize by. Considering Egypt was de facto seperate from the Ottoman Empire from the early 19th-century, most Egyptians
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there is a vast amount of medieval people in a country that they should be split by century (as already happens a lot!) so there's no split needed in early high and late middle ages, while if the amount of medieval people in a country is pretty small (as e.g. in Transylvania) then I would just leave
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A separate tree by region is not necessary because Romania has only three major historical regions (Moldavia, Wallachia and Transylvania) and Hungary doesn't have any historical regions of major importance. In Romania it seems difficult to build a consistent tree because locality and ethnicity are
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Side note, Early Modern is a longer period than Late Medieval while it contains a lot more articles per century, so enforcing a Late Medieval distinction everywhere would lead to a pretty skewed distribution of category sizes. On another side note, content wise there is not an amazing difference
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needs to be re-assessed as to how and where it is subcatted (as you said, ethnicity? locality?). As for the nom, because Transylvania has been part of different countries/kingdoms, I'm not sure the nommed plan is the way to go.
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Anachronistic. Nothing that could reasonably be called Nazi Germany existed until 10 years after the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire. This category contains no pages directly and two subcats. The subcats are both already in
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Most of the 20th-century articles are about politicians, and the 20th & 21st century articles about presidents or prime ministers of Portugal are already in categories for those positions, eg
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since quite a number of the articles in these categories are biographies. After keeping apart the biographies, too little content remains to justify a split between the two time periods.
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And I am also not thrilled with "dumping" the two nommed cats into the medieval one. All of these things come together pointing out that this region is one of those "special cases". -
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In accordance with CfD's need for extra clarity, I think the proposed title communicates that this category has nothing to do with actual snakes, and that it's only for video games.
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administrative close. This wasn't really the correct forum since it was a template that was nominated and not a category (and there was no corresponding category—it had been
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between the political history of High and Late Middle Ages (there is a difference in social history but there aren't too many articles about medieval social history anyway).
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After dividing up the contents of this category into "Albums by artist" and "Songs by artist" subcategories, there is no need for the eponymous parent category per
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them at medieval without further diffusion in early high and late middle ages. In both these cases the distinction of early high and late is not too meaningful.
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I had never heard of "Causasian", but apparently it's a synonym of "Caucasian". But since there isn't a primary topic for
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collaborating with the Nazis would never have been de facto subjects of the Ottoman Empire.05:42, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
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to the Soviet category. The one member is a Circassian, who would now (if living0 get a Russian passport.
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as proposed; if the people category ever becomes overflown, we can always split it further down--
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per nom. Too many categories under the current system, but we should split out the bio articles.
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etc.) We can disambiguate to "Snake video games" if the name is confusing as is. (P.S.
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per nom. I am the creator of these categories and I agree to the change in scope.
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With no objection to recreating if 5 or so directly related articles appear.
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I am loathe to start a "medieval people" tree of cats.
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No further edits should be made to this section. 1265:, but obviously that's a well-established term. -- 988:Category:Causasian collaborators with Nazi Germany 926:Category:Causasian collaborators with Nazi Germany 463:20th-century & 21st-century rulers of Portugal 281:, respectively. 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Knowledge:Categories for discussion
Log
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December 30
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deletion review
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Category:History of Transylvania (1003–1308)‎
Category:Medieval Transylvania
Category:Medieval Transylvanian people
Category:History of Transylvania (1308–1526)‎
Category:Medieval Transylvania
Category:Medieval Transylvanian people
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Category:People by region
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Category:Medieval Transylvania
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Category:People from Moldavia
Category:People from Wallachia
Category:Romanian people
Category:People from Transylvania
Category:Transylvanian Romanians
Category:Romanian people

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