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1111:) is one of its six child categories. With the content it currently has, the nominated category should be kept, since 1) its six child categories are independent of each other (i.e. they shouldn't be parented to each other as was the case until yesterday) and 2) because the category is part of the established 396:
As the one who created the category, this renaming would retain the usefulness of being able to find who were AAS Presidents from each of the pages involved, which blue links would not accomplish, nor would there be redlinks to indicate what articles, if any, needed to be
647:– the rationale is confused. There are no individual articles at the top level so 'defining' is irrelevant. The subcats (and many more subcats could be added) can also be parented by 'the organisation of which the people are members' so that objection is specious. 2091:
Most species of amphibians are poisonous (have glands that secretes poisonous or noxious compounds), and there is no unambiguous distinction between defensive compounds and poison: what is simply distasteful to some predators may be toxic or lethal to others.
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All this parent category will do is attract new categories that are inherently non-defining. Paying dues is never defining; doing the job that the professional organization representes usually is though. (Note that I independently reparenented
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the stations, and the only article filed in the format category that isn't also in the eponymous one is an article about one regional office of the National Weather Service which is really not much more an omnibus list of 11
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tree, those categories really group by topic area whereas these articles are more specific designs. (If there is a better art term for these articles than "motif", I'm certainly open to an alternative rename.) -
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The purpose of this category is to group popular designs for tattoos which is great. The current name is ambiguous though because it may seem to be referring to the person getting the tattoo. While we
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I am not entirely sure that this category is valuable for readers, but it is certainly valauable for editors ... so it might be appropriate for it to become a hidden maintenance category.
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both fit better with that title as their subcategory instead of the generic one - while there is no by-country weather-radio category tree established, just one other for Canada, and
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and to make sure your change doesn't break current consensus given the 2013 discussion? I've recreated some more technical category deletions by checking with the closing admin (
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Two categories which are just duplicating each other for no compelling reason. The second groups the stations by format while the first is an eponymous category for the
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NOAA stations that (probably much more wisely) have been merged into it rather than existing as standalone permastubs. Which means they're really just redundant
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to agree with the the article names. A different category would exist for the conflict that started in January 2014, with ISIS becoming a major player.
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I tagged the target category for renaming so the closing admin can consider the opinions above. (I have no opinion on the regional English spelling.)
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each other, I'm entirely amenable to the reverse merge as well if that's what consensus would prefer. I've added it as an alternative accordingly.
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the restoration of the container category, though it should also have some text clarifying which historical eras are included. Parent category
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As container category. The revised usage goes well beyond Ante-Nicene Christians that the prior category (of the same name) grouped together..
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I'm open to listifying because I'm not sure this is defining to the biography articles but I don't want a AAS category for 2 articles. What
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defining is that these are American professors of Asian Studies but I don't see a current category for that unless that is covered by
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part of the NOAA Weather Radio network, it's preferable to have the remaining category, after eliminating the duplicate one, being
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works with either as a logical subcategory. Therefore, and as there are no weather radio stations in the United States that are
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are clearly also 'members of a professional organisation' so what is the problem? Finally, the category is not tagged.
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with each other. And even the three exceptions aren't actually incompatible with the other category either — so the
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have a particularly strong opinion about which one should be the target and which one should be the redirect — it
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Entry could include the main article and the list of presidents, and enable us to abolish the unhelpful category
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because being AAS President is an elected position that requires actual duties, not simply accepting the award.
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also in the format category already are the eponym itself, and an article about the broadcasting protocol (
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One page in the category, and there is no reason to keep it when it can be upmerged into another category.
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kind of an arbitrary "pick one or the other and run with it" tossup. Other than the fact that they don't
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Regardless of anything else, I agree that it should not be for individual people. So I have tagged it
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New conflict started in early January 2014 when ISIL captured Fallujah and large parts of Anbar.
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in which case we could merge this into that category. (Is "orientalist" still used as a term?)
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I struggled with that one too; It might belong in the parent category. I'd be fine with
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Not useful or defining. The categories included would be better renamed. see above .
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I think turning it into a container category satisfactorily addresses my concerns.
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Sorry about that Peter, as I would be happy to support Twiceuponatime's idea.
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this category redirect into a container category but are coming here to avoid
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That's exactly what I have in mind, thanks for the further clarification.
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Both appear to be already in one of the installations sub-categories.
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is included, the definition would include the 6th and 7th centuries.
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and the only remaining subcategory is already well parented under
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as the category creator and this discussion has been included in
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No useful distinction between an association and an organisation
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retention (it currently existing) as a container category.
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I'm okay with containerizing too. By the way, there is also
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Index

Knowledge:Categories for discussion
Log
January 16
January 18
talk page
deletion review
(non-admin closure)
sst
08:35, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Category:Iraqi insurgency (2011–present)
Category:Iraqi insurgency (2011–13)
CFD 2015 March 21
EkoGraf
Iraqi insurgency (2011–14)
Iraqi insurgency (2011–13)
Fayenatic
L
ondon
22:14, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
Jackninja5
talk
16:20, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Peterkingiron
talk
17:49, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Marcocapelle
talk
08:42, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
John Pack Lambert
talk

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