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1379:"retrocomputing" - they were the cutting edge of technology when they were released, and the vendors did not think "people will fondly remember these half a century in the future", they sold them as new products. Labelling them as "retrocomputing" retcons their entire lifetime as hobbyist toys rather than actual computers, and retconning itself should be avoided. With this logic, every computer a couple of decades old becomes "retrocomputing". In my opinion, "retrocomputing" should be specifically used to mean running software for old, legacy, obsolete computing systems today (or old, legacy, obsolete software for modern computing systems today), not for the systems themselves. 197:
creating the "Caegory" version, then accidentally creating the "Category:Caegory:" version by making a second mistake in his own attempt to correct the first error, and then finally getting it right on his third try by moving it again to the target. So we can just speedy these as good faith user
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I have to take issue with the current state of the category Retrocomputing. It includes Knowledge (XXG) articles for several computing systems that were in use from the 1970s to the 1990s, but are not in use any more. The reason for this issue is that the computing systems themselves are not
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It's not exactly a broadcast network, more like a cable channel carried on broadcast in Mexico City and some of whose programs are cherry-picked by Televisa local stations. It doesn't have affiliates. Delete this and the "affiliates" subcategory.
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does not have a concrete definition, and it mostly comes down to personal opinion. Without a definition, all computers, software, chips, etc, that are greater than X years old have the potential of being added to the category. The
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We do not need to maintain redirects from alternate versions in which the word "Category" is misspelled. Reviewing the edit histories, in fact, this doesn't appear to have been intentional β€” the user started out
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I agree with Bearcat. I won't make someone nominate every possible similar category, but the ones for NYC subway should be nominated together since they would likely share the same outcome.
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These two categories cover the same thing, there is no consistent way to argue things go in one or the other, and no reason to place all the articles in both.
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Oops, I didn't mean "hidden category," I meant that the input in the infobox would automatically categorize the article from the template page itself.
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If you want to include the subcategory in the nomination as well you should tag the category page and list it here.
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depending on the strength of argument β€” but there's no valid reason to get rid of this one in isolation while
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created as a thing anybody thought we genuinely needed. I'm going to speedy these accordingly.
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doesn't produce its own distinct morning or noon news shows anymore, but just simulcasts
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In the event that this is deleted, however, I can merge the articles into
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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We don't have redirects for misspellings of the namespace.
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which is fine with me; and the West Belarus subcat to
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since underground is the default option for subways.
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which is not needed because it is in there already.
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Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion
Log
February 20
February 22
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Bearcat
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Category:Caegory:Business career of Donald Trump
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history
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logs
Caegory:Business career of Donald Trump
Debresser
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23:07, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
Carlossuarez46
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23:28, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
Bearcat
talk
16:10, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
talk page
deletion review
talk page
deletion review

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