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2695:, and Grabado agreed. Now, you've proposed to rename a handful of articles and categories, which will impact thousands of articles, with little community buy-in. Most early participants spoke against the need for change. The rest of the discussion consisted of mostly four editors, who each reached separate conclusions. There 2000+ diocese articles and 200,000+ parish articles that will be impacted by your proposals above. Will you edit each one to carefully make them consistent? Will you document your naming conventions so that others can duplicate them? Otherwise, we are creating just a big mess by changing category schemes while few people are looking. The current system is imperfect, but several editors such as 643:. Anglo-Catholics and Independent Catholics are indeed listed as Christians. However, as a brief reply, we will have a hard time convincing the crowd to have Catholics categorised as Orthdodox, although if you ask the 1,3 billion, most would probably find themselves no less orthodox in their Christian faith and identity than, say, Eastern Orthodox. Numbers are not immaterial as one of the aspects to have in regard when it boils down to 2943:
another song within the top 40 to disqualify the songs in this category as "one-hit wonders" (not at all unlikely considering how some of the artists behind these "one-hit wonders" are still popular acts producing music). If such a likely scenario can exist, whereby a song can be removed from this category for no longer qualifying as a "one-hit wonder", then the category itself is not a defining characteristic.
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definition. And yes, many of the songs filed here right now are recent enough that the artist who created them is still active in the recording industry and thus could still easily come up with another hit single tomorrow or next week or next year. Not to mention that even if a category for this were warranted, it would belong on the
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per past discussions. The problem with this is that it's remarkably subjective — lots of artists are technically "one-hit wonders" because they only had one conventional Top 40 hit, but aren't thought of that way because their overall bodies of work are too iconic despite their lack of success on the
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Well, I see your remark that the discussion about thus category could arguably rely on the results of the on-going discussion that you referree to. However, it is currently in a state with little concrete proposals. This is a try to get down to concrete proposals to evaluate. Are you really opposing
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I do not like the process used here, where a subset of articles are selected nearly at random for renaming, and categories are selected at random for renaming, and a once fairly consistent set of articles and categories become ever more fragmented, without a strong compelling consensus for a need to
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to a concrete and slim level in a productive way. What about if we put the above discussions on hold - or I ask an administrator fold them with "no consensus" for the time being, while we work out Grabado's discussion further, keeping it in that sole place for the time being? Would that be alright
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This category seems to be focusing on a non-defining characteristic of songs (e.g. that the artist did not chart again the top 40 in the United States). For example, many of the songs being tagged as one-hit wonders are from only a few years ago, and all it would take is for their artists to have
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their only chart hit, just because its video was so bloody iconic that it's the only A-ha song that most people still remember, and still hear on the local Jack FM station, 30 years later.) So this is basically just a recipe for constant editwarring with no possibility of a truly objective
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Well, I see your point regarding the very articles. Possibly, in line with your argument, I could see why theur respective imnediate categories would follow naming method of their corresponding articles. However, some way up the category tree, the prevailing consensus departing from
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When I originally commented I was on mobile and didn't see the Eastern Catholic tree, which includes Eastern Catholic clerics. Merging these categories would be inappropriate given this consideration. It serves as a valid disambiguation within the category tree.
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As nothing has happened to my request, here is another comment. The above proposals are all related to the general Catholic Church perspective. Thus, they are not related to the Latin/Roman rite/Roman Catholic ongoing issue at
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I do not like this process one bit. We had a long, protracted conversation that went, in my opinion, nowhere (and frankl left me exhausted). Grabado proposed a very slim outline, and I said it had some merit, but needed
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per the RM. I think there is consensus for the move in the History by country realm. The others I still oppose or am neutral on, but making these categories and articles makes sense per the arguments in the RM.
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necessary disambiguation from Eastern Catholic dioceses and it is consistent with most of the titles used by the diocese articles in the main space, which typically follow the names the diocese call themselves.
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not broken, no need to change. As Zfish pointed out, there is no consensus following an extensive discussion as to whether or not we should change the Roman disambiguator for individual institutions.
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not all people who identify as Catholic are in communion with Rome, e.g. Anglo-Catholics. Note I am not opposing the other renames on this page to rename Catholic Church categories to Catholic.
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have at least worked to make it consistent in several areas such as diocesan naming and categorization, and I would hate to see that fragmented without strong consensus and documentation. –
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Alright. I see two important users who have voiced against the process of the above interrelated proposals. I have also noticed a significant change in the background picture, namely how
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forgot to tag the category for this discussion, so regardless of the balance of opinions here, there could have been no valid consensus to merge, delete or rename the category. --
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forgot to tag the category for this discussion, so regardless of the balance of opinions here, there could have been no valid consensus to merge, delete or rename the category. --
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forgot to tag the category for this discussion, so regardless of the balance of opinions here, there could have been no valid consensus to merge, delete or rename the category. --
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forgot to tag the category for this discussion, so regardless of the balance of opinions here, there could have been no valid consensus to merge, delete or rename the category. --
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forgot to tag the category for this discussion, so regardless of the balance of opinions here, there could have been no valid consensus to merge, delete or rename the category. --
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forgot to tag the category for this discussion, so regardless of the balance of opinions here, there could have been no valid consensus to merge, delete or rename the category. --
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change. Each article that is selected for renaming ought to be carefully edited for consistency, and that follow up never seems to happen, so articles end up in worse shape. –
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I agree that a category isn't the right association but (assuming there isn't one already) it seems to me that a chronological list would prove interesting to many.
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As there is one category, it should be Catholic, because there is one Catholic Church. The fact that the church has subdivisions does not mean that every category
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As there is one category, it should be Catholic, because there is one Catholic Church. The fact that the church has subdivisions does not mean that every category
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this proposal, even independently of said discussion? Because that doesn't seem consistent to me judging from your reasoning on the very discussion. Again, as
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That's the articles' realm. However, here we're talking about a category, and two levels up from that article realm that you're talking about.
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already so that's not a good reason to keep the nominated category which serves no other function than applying the same scheme to laity.
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because of the need for disambiguation by clerics as pointed out by Marcocapelle. That is a very important reason to have this category.
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if there are Eastern Catholic universities, we can create a new category for them. That is no reason to remove the Roman title here.
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in favour of the renaming amongst the 4 participants here, but I note the clear lack of consensus in the much wider discussion at
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per nom. Note there are at least some 100 more of these categories, perhaps they should be nominated in a batch nomination.
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I'm not sure this is a useful category anyway; but I would distinguish "Catholic" from "Catholic Church". Note that
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as Catholics in reliable sources. Presumably Anglo-Catholics are regarded as Anglicans only, except by themselves.
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as this is the overarching category that also includes Eastern Catholics. Though I have a slight preference for
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should folloe suit, don't you think? I have a hard time seeing why individuals cases should make override the
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Please note that that disambiguation can - and seems like it's going to - be sorted out in a later phase.
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better than the others (i.e. A-ha routinely get classed as a one-hit wonder even though "Take On Me" was
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Besides the good reasons given above, the term "one-hit wonder" refers to the artist, not the song. —
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as this is the overarching category that may include Eastern Catholic universities and colleges.
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per my vote below, if there are Eastern Catholic schools, a new category can be created.
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where no consensus emerged for major changes to Roman Catholic Categorization Scheme. –
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Which should in that case be adjusted, since otherwise it would stem from a fault of
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as this is the overarching category that may include Eastern Catholic councils.
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Note that the subcategories should be nominated for merging/renaming as well.
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That is a true remark - and a position I also perceive is in prevalent
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emerged for major changes to Roman Catholic Categorization Scheme. –
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion
Log
July 1
July 3
talk page
deletion review
Fayenatic
London
13:03, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
Category:Knowing Bros participants
edit
talk
history
links
watch
logs
Overcategorization of performers by performance
Knowing Bros
User:Good Olfactory/CFD#Reality TV participants

xplicit
23:45, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
Marcocapelle
talk
20:44, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
talk page
deletion review
talk page
deletion review
BrownHairedGirl

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