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1739:. This starts with the statement "Sort keys are sometimes needed to produce a correct ordering of member pages and subcategories". Note the choice of words: "a correct ordering". There is such a thing. That section goes on to list 11 more reasons to use a sortkey (your example appearing above that list, making a round dozen in all). You might look particularly at item 6 which uses the phrase "proper numerical ordering" and item 7, which says "Systematic sort keys are also used ... where the logical sort order is not alphabetical". How much clearer could it be? Nowhere does it say "You might try to put members in some sort of sequence but don't worry too much about it, it's not really important". Sequencing is important. It's not an optional nice-to-have extra to possibly make life a teensier bit easier - it's basic to the system. 1340:
not? (3) There are other methods available, such as a sortable list. Yes, but that's more work to set up and would require separate updating whenever a new article was created, and so would inevitably get out of step. Why choose a difficult method over an easier one? (4) Categorising is not indexing. This objection is a bit of a mystery to me. If the items in a category are not in any useful sequence, they're unsearchable and therefore no use, so what's the point of the category at all?
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deleting these categories. but I made them, in good faith, with the intent to help our readers, and I'd like to have a clear understanding of how you think they are actually used, and why you don't think that having categories sorted in a useful searchable sequence, is helpful, even though many of them are very much intentionally sorted (by the use of sortkeys).
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that are linking to the wrong category. When a redirect category is moved, it does not change these redirects pages, as they aren't tagged in the categories, but use a redirect template that automatically categorizes them. I'm not going to create new redirects that target the wrongly named category, just so later I'll have extra work and pointless edits. --
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we have to work with. Ideally, readers would be able to sort any category under multiple attributes ... but the current software doesn't allow that, and your workaround creates problems which outweigh the benefits. So what we do for now is to create one least-worst ordering for any category, and if we want to do provide than that we use lists with
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I do understand the problem which you want to resolve: that each of the by-state categories could be sorted in several different ways, and you want to give readers the tools to do so. That's a laudable goal, and it exposes yet again the hideous crudeness of the underdeveloped category software which
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use a category, and why that usage isn't dependent on the sequence, and why, if that's the case, the sortkey facility, designed to provide a sequence, is so widely used. Try coming up with a clear explanation of these questions, and this argument will be over, I'm well aware that the consensus is for
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Objections to this proposal take several forms: (1) It's creating a lot of small subcats. This is true, but I don't see why it's a problem. If it's useful to our readers, why not? (2) We've never used subcats like this before for ordering in different ways. Also true, as far as I know, but again, why
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I'm sorry, but while I'm in the middle of creating new character redirects and going over dozens of comic-related articles, trying to track down the various missing and wrong links targeted at comic articles instead of the TV series redirects and linking to them, I'm not going to create new redirects
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films focuse on the character's unrequited love for various cats, and his stubborn pursuit of his love interests. Superhero animation also thrives on depicting the love lives of its heroes and villains. In animation, Batman (for example) has been variously paired with Catwoman, Cheetah, Wonder Woman,
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as over-categorization (e.g. it's better to have a smaller number of more complete categories). There are much better ways to categorize novels (author, genre, century etc). Categorizing by characteristics of a character in novels could lead to a plethora of categories that would probably only ever
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Are you threatening me simply for disagreeing? That is entirely unacceptable behaviour on your part. I've been totally upfront about my purposes here, and I haven't done anything to obstruct the previous decision - and no, my questions were not answered in the previous discussion, nor have they been
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The current title is not sufficient, as it could mean either the 2014 or 1990 TV series. It also does not follow the parent's disambiguation which is The Flash (2014 TV series). All former and new redirects are already using the correct category. If possible, this should be create protected, as to
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The current title is not sufficient, as it could mean either the 2014 or 1990 TV series. It also does not follow the parent's disambiguation which is The Flash (2014 TV series). All former and new redirects are already using the correct category. If possible, this should be create protected, as to
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Sortable lists have merit, of course, but they are a significant amount of work to create and to maintain, especially as new tornado articles are always being created. Using subcats removes the need for constant maintenance, as the new article simply needs to be categorised correctly, which is a
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for obvious reasons, but I've come across this kind of thing a few times and you probably didn't need to bother at this point. There are no episode redirects to the 1990 series that I know of, so in a way the new category is an unnecessary disambiguation. But of course, there may someday be 1990
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Oh really. They just sit down and read through all of them. No thought of selecting those that fit their particular inquiry. So it doesn't matter at all what order the articles appear in, because they're just going to read them all anyway. This is obviously nonsesnse, and what is the point of
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That's not an answer, it's an instruction. Absolutely nobody has explained why not to do that. There have been a lot of statements along the lines of "we've never done that before" or 'it would lead to a lot of small subcats' or 'there are other ways' but no answers to my responses to those
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Articles do not need to be in a particular order within a category. By default the order is by alphabet which is kind of random and yet works perfectly well. Readers can simply decide whether or not they want to read an article based on its title (rather that based on its sequence order).
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answered here. If I'm misunderstanding the function of categories, perhaps someone would like to explain specifically what the purpose of them is, why it doesn't matter if they're in no particular order, and if that's the case, why the category sortkey facility exists and is widely used.
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Readers are generally expected to use links from other articles (e.g. lists) rather than categories to navigate (category links at the bottom of articles aren't even shown to many/most readers). If you don't want to create lists that's fine (we're all volunteers), but don't try to expand
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Really? Readers are expected to scan an entire category in the hope that the one they want is there? That's about as much use as a dictionary with the words in random order. Why does the category sortkey facility exist, if not to put the members of a category into a useful sequence?
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Indiscriminate isn't the same as large. The problem with "Films about women" was that it couldn't be meaningfully distinguished from "Films". This category doesn't have that problem. I'd be open to considering deletion for other reasons, I just don't buy the rationales so far.
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articles, you can also pick and choose from the articles in a category based on the article title. And for picking and choosing, an alphabetic order helps a little bit. The sort key can be used e.g. to sort people on alphabet by surname while their article title is by first name.
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My plan for fixing this problem, which I had started working on, was to create subcategories, by date and by location, and modify each tornado article's categories to use these subcategories with apropriate sort keys. Thus, a reader would be able to click on, for example,
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Non-defining was the better word, having a female (or male) protagonist is not the first thing that comes to mind when describing a novel. And, while you're mentioning it yourself, size is also a problem, this will result in probably thousands of novels in a category.
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films often focused on the boys' love lives. Including a film which had both of them attempting to commit suicide, because their girlfriends cheated on them and married their other lovers. (Trust Hannah and Barbera to add drama in a comedy series. ) Almost all of the
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for the "Films about women" discussion. The consensus was that the category should be deleted because it was indiscrimiate - almost any film could be "about women" in some way. The category nominated here has much more clear cut inclusion criteria (for example,
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You shouldn't empty a category that you are proposing for renaming or deleting. You should refrain until this discussion is closed or propose the category for a speedy rename. It's disruptive to empty a category while it is being considered for deletion.
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That said, I appreciate that you have acknowledged that I was making an honest attempt to solve a real problem, and that you have finally engaged properly with a full explanation, rather than just trying to dismiss my work. I will take this no further.
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does not guide an editor towards which of the sort keys would be appropriate. The result has been that most tornado articles simply use the default sortkey of article title, with the random results that you can see in any of the tornado-related
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Trying explaining does not help either, see above. The problem is that the creator of the category got stuck in their own idea of using categories and fails to understand general usage of categories by other editors. Yes I think there is a
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Generally, tornado article titles identify an outbreak by date and location, which are the primary things any reader looking for an article is likely to want to search on; however a typical tornado-related category such as
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I noticed that many tornado-related categories are a mess, in the sense that the articles within them are listed in no discernible order, and thus of no use to anyone looking for a particular article. For an example, see
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I've already acknowledged the obvious, that my idea of how categories are used clearly does not match with your idea. But what isn't clear. and what I've repeatedly tried to get you to explain, is how someone
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statements. Why can't you just answer those questions, or the questions in my previous comment? If you think I'm wrong and I've misunderstood what categories are for, educate me, don't threaten or bully me.
824:-- a category for redirects is a rather useless entity. We might need a dab-category to house categories for the two series, to prevent miscategorisation, but that is all. Rather than empty it, if what 1995:
I'm not sure how the scope of these two categories are different. The "by series" seems extraneous as I don't think there are any other types of lists of action television characters except by series.
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While the anime subcategory is a populated category, this is a empty category. Outside of anime, animated romantic dramas are extremely rare. It's a rather trivial triple intersection.
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articles about a certain broader topic. Readers who are in search of one particular article can simply use the search bar, that is not what categories are intended for.
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This is frankly incomprehensible. So someone uses a category to find all articles about a topic, and then what do they do - just sit and stare at them? What actually
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as a category that cannot possibly foster encyclopedic collaboration. It does not benefit the project to categorize users based on past landmarks they have visited.
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We also have a secondary problem: the way you have chosen to name these categories adopts the naming convention used throughout the rest of the category tree for
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I had no intention of creating more than two subcats - I was only concerned with the two characteristics that are normally in the title - date and location.
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This is completely irrelevant. I'm not trying to do anything like what you describe - just ensuring that existing articles are listed in a useful sequence.
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Unless you are planning to create sub-categories specific to cities or settlements, the category seems pointless. It is redundant to its parent category.
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mostly focused on the eternal love-triangle between Popeye, Olive Oyl, and Bluto, and there are few films in the entire series which do not feature it.
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It is pointless to continue this discussion if you do not believe that some readers have a broader interest rather than a particular inquiry.
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A similar titled category called "Films about women" was deleted, so this category should be deleted because it's too similar.
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does not belong in the category even though it has plenty of major female characters), so that discussion doesn't apply here.
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I'd like to point out that in my point 4, I asked a number of questions about the objections, which no-one has responded to.
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Outside of anime, which is covered in a different cat, animation rarely focuses on romance, let alone a romantic subgenre.
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which may (one day) be able to provide things such as maps with the locations of tornadoes linked to their wp articles.
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True, but that's a bit of an edge case. Based on your description, I'd say it does belong in this category, whereas
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This question frankly is incomprehensible. What do readers do who are interested in a certain broader topic? They
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does not (no single protagonist). My guess is that for 99% of novels the answer is going to be pretty obvious.
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had a short film where both of them were trying to romance the same woman (Clarice, a nightclub singer). The
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should have added a new category. When this discussion is closed, the original version would be removed.
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categorization to duplicate the job that lists do better. You might also want to check out
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That CFD was closed as a clear consensus not to retain that sort of category. Is there a
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The fact that we haven't done this before is no reason to reject a proposal outright
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but now they are sorted by location. This is exactly the same type of nomination as
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Basically unpopulated. I think that it's a rather trivial intersection of genres.
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answered in the previous discussion. At least until they became circular.
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Hesitant why this is split? Either as proposed, or perhaps merged which
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Thank you for explaining. Changed position based on the size argument.
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I'll repeat my explanation of the purpose of these subcategories.
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per nom. I'm glad that you moved all of the episode redirects to
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Thank you for this response. I would make the following points:
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all your points above were comprehensively responded to in the
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Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion
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December 11
December 13
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Timrollpickering
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11:42, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
Category:Romantic comedy animation
edit
talk
history
links
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logs
JDDJS
talk to me
see what I've done
22:56, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
List of Walt Disney Animation Studios films
Chip 'n' Dale
Popeye the Sailor (film series)
Tom and Jerry
Pepé Le Pew
Dimadick
talk
08:48, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
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deletion review

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