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1398: 763: 744: 973:, Category:Anti-abortion violence in the United States, is 1) violence 2) anti-aborthion 3) United States, Category:United States anti-abortion movement is a whole concept of a group activity with he express purpose of anti-abortion campaigning and activities. They are two different categories, both a 1230:, the concept of an updated modern variation on the traditional academically inclined encyclopedia of old should be easily acceptable if a for a moment interested editors notice the non-traditional subject(s) that already exist as articles within this encyclopedia, as is evidenced by the existence of 1863:
though "they are generally federally funded major museums in national capitals" is not really true (and most counties aren't "federal" at all in the US sense). In most countries it means museums funded and ultimately run by branches of the national government - in France and Italy for example.
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While Congress has specifically designated around 20 museums as National Museums (in addition to the Smithsonian I think), the unofficial private use of the term makes the use of it fairly meaningless for categorization here. No reason to separate these from other museums across the states.
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I'm not sure what that idiom means, but "keep because it's interesting" seems like an argument for keeping the list (which we are) but not necessarily the category (because trivial categories are considered clutter in article footers). --
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being based on a YouTube video that is no longer available. It might be acceptable to retain this category if it was not willy-nilly added to biographies of people for trivial and insignificant events that are just barely cover in
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as the use in the film is not a defining characteristic of the compositions themselves. Please don't get me wrong this film is a favorite of mine. I think it merits a mention in each of the six articles as it is here
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is a concept that varies by country but they are generally federally funded major museums in national capitals. In the United States, that role is served by the
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all have "national" in their name but they are private foundations that don't match the main article. (Conversly, federal museums outside the capital that
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Especially in Italy they are all over the country. Also in the UK, although the term is not used so much there. Not some random marketing boast anyway.
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This is one of my favorite films, and a lot could be written about its segments. But this is about the music of the segments, not the film itself.
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in this category tree.) I can't imagine what editor would want to navigate between these museums with no common thread other than their names. -
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for the locations of the Cenacle and of Jesus' baptism, among the current entries, but the identification of those locations is unclear. –
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I checked A to K and all the members (or the target pages, for members that are redirects) are already in other sub-cats of to
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to the Holy Spirit in religious history, because the Holy Spirit did not have any relatives who were spirits of places or the
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The edit history of this page shows disagreement about whether it is specifically for the Christian understanding of the
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Uh that is what I said and why I made the nomination - it is a "non-defining characteristic" of the 6 pieces of music.
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This can be handled by adding an additional parent category, not by completely changing the scope of this one.
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Johnbod probably did not read the text of your rationale. You might try contacting him/her.
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but not specifically the Holy Spirit. Other places might be suggested by pages such as
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This category does not seem encyclopedic. The list upon which it is based (
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containments within objects within those afore-mentioned places..
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Category:American national museums in Georgia (U.S. state)‎
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The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion.
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should be placed within this newly renamed category.
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Index

Knowledge:Categories for discussion
Log
April 24
April 26
talk page
deletion review
MER-C
18:38, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
Category:Segments from Allegro Non Troppo
edit
talk
history
links
watch
logs
WP:SMALLCAT
WP:CATDEF
Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune#Film
MarnetteD
Talk
23:18, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
Johnbod
talk
17:27, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
MarnetteD
Talk
23:45, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
Dimadick
talk
05:39, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

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