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categorized events are part of "Cold War II". I believe they are (mis)categorized just because they are part of either tensions between the US and Russia or foreign policies of Russia. To clarify my "fears of mis-categorization", I shall say that Russia-related events were (mis)categorized just because Russia was part of the original Cold War when it was part of the Soviet Union and just to re-heighten fears of Russians. Maybe I'm wrong. Why couldn't China-related events be categorized? For sure I don't know. However, I can see that reliable sources haven't yet categorized the events as part of "Cold War II".
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To me the "Cold War II" has been mistaken to be actually happening. Well, no sources at this time refer it as a "hoax" or nonexistent; indeed, many news articles refer it to either tensions between Russia and the West or tensions between China and the US. However, we can't be certain whether the
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deleting guitarists by gender does not make too much sense. However, I really wonder why we would distinguish musicians by gender at all, except we should of course distinguish singers as (mezzo-)sopranos, tenors, baritones, basses, which usually coincides with gender.
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I created the first two, as well as some other "male X" categories, because there were corresponding female categories. If these are deleted, the categories for female guitarists should be deleted as well. Both or neither; only one makes no sense and creates bias.
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Russia and the US. There is some content about Russian foreign policy and there is some other content about American (or NATO) foreign policy, but linking any of that to Cold War II remains a matter of subjective interpretation.
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but not in substantial detail and does not connect the term and the event. I fear that the category would be misused to (mis)categorize other events that no reliable sources would connect to.
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which - translated to this case - says that we shouldn't categorize by gender unless the intersection by gender is a notable topic in its own right.
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uses more clear and encyclopedic wording, so the subcats should follow suit. Whether the class numbers should be spelled out is
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Another clear example of non-consensus and unnecessary categories created by this banned user and/or their sockpuppets.
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion
Log
February 1
February 3
talk page
deletion review
Timrollpickering
Talk
Category:War (U.S. band)
Category:War (American band)
Category:War (U.S. band) albums
Category:War (American band) albums
Category:War (U.S. band) members
Category:War (American band) members
Category:War (U.S. band) songs
Category:War (American band) songs
War (band)
War (U.S. band)
War (Swedish band)
Anthrax (American band)
War (American band)
23:57, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
talk page
deletion review
talk page
deletion review
Timrollpickering
Talk
14:31, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
Category:Flora of the Middle East

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