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1316: 898: 1271:, note that we do not need a parent category when there is just a main article with an albums and songs subcategory because in that case all content is linked by the {{Songs by artist}} and {{Albums by artist}} templates already. The discography article may well be put in the albums category. 429:
So basically, you're saying we should create thousands of "works by" categories for any music artist with "Foo albums" and "Foo songs" categories. This has never been done that way before when there is such minimal content.
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are hardcoded to say "lives in", "hails from" and similar phrases, so there's still benefit from this subcategorization. Another possibility, to not disturb the structure of subcategories
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There's been a scheme of "albums by artist" and "songs by artist" for years but never one that places the two in a "works by" parent category. Both this and
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Thanks for checking out. The two US categories have the same content so they should be merged. Well, that may require a separate nomination after all. See
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No objection to a rename. Also, how can this be a reprisal to a nomination that was made after this one? Please don't assume bad faith on my part.
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Userboxes in the category allow customization (advertized on documentations subpages) to include any verb phrase, not just "lives in". —⁠
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Note also that this is an obvious and bad faith reprisal to the CfD nomination above (albeit an incorrect CfD), for
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At the moment, there is no need for specific "of residence" category. It is the only subcategory of
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and a "works by" parent to sufficiently interlinked subcategories is still overcategorization.
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Our convention is to use "Works by ..." Deletion would do nothing to achieve this.
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Our convention is to use "Works by ..." Deletion would do nothing to achieve this.
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to see how the "works" tree can be correctly and effectively implemented.
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should be deleted due to minimal content and established precedent.
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Unnecessary parent. Subcats sufficiently interlinked.
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It doesn't need to go in an eponymous category. Per
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No further edits should be made to this section. 1445:List of awards and nominations received by Cardi B 197:Category:Russian city of residence user templates 106:Category:Russian city of residence user templates 60:Category:Russian city of residence user templates 1443:already, where is the nominator suggesting that 601:. "Works by" is the established convention. 193:Category:Russian city of origin user templates 175:issue with that is that a lot of userboxes in 1488:What do you mean by an "eponymous category"? 623:. 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Index

Knowledge:Categories for discussion
Log
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June 28
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deletion review
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Category:Russian city of residence user templates
Category:Russian cities user templates
Category:Russia user templates
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Category:Place of residence user templates
Marcocapelle
talk
21:40, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
Marcocapelle
Category:US city of residence user templates
Category:US city of origin user templates
Category:Place of residence user templates
Category:Place of origin user templates
Category:Russian city of origin user templates
Category:Russian city of residence user templates
User:UBX/User Toledo
andrybak
talk
10:42, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
Knowledge:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_July_5#Category:US_city_of_residence_user_templates

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