1926:. This comes across as having a well-occupied 20 floor building where the 13th floor is empty and coming over with a crane and a steal ball to knock out the empty floor out, while explaining that you have already resolved the problem of the water supply. Singer by gender categories are important, and cross-sectioning it with nationality is nontrivial. Everyone in this somewhat scattered discussion seems to agree on that much. (If anyone here is unaware of the real differences between female and (mature) male voices, I'd be happy to explain.) Singer by gender categories, however, are not only subcategories of singers, but also of
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2021:As above, it will not create a disconnect.
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1099:Category:People from Eckington, Derbyshire
3312:– very confusing, as is its only article
2562:An alternate suggestion (see comments by
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860:although I am open to other suggestions.
858:Category: Rugby league teams in Australia
406:Category:Ancient Greek women philosophers
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887:Category:Rugby league clubs in Australia
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2448:Category:Individual models (profession)
2162:Category:Fictional characters by gender
1668:Category:South Korean singers by gender
849:Category: Australian rugby league teams
3334:Samhita Madras Institute of Technology
3314:Samhita Madras Institute of Technology
3081:, and we should keep this, an overall
1641:Category:Singaporean singers by gender
1596:Category:Montenegrin singers by gender
883:Category:Australian rugby league clubs
845:Category:Australian rugby league clubs
789:Category:Australian rugby league teams
3420:Category:Louis-François Baron Lejeune
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1524:Category:Icelandic singers by gender
1443:Category:Argentine singers by gender
3525:Agree, no prejudice to re-creation
3110:Category:Models by type of modeling
3083:category of individual human models
2678:Category:Beauty pageant contestants
2666:Category:Models by type of modeling
2432:Clarifies the ambiguity present in
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60:Category:Neighborhoods in Tehran
3238:Category:Chennai Technical fest
3193:Category:Chennai Technical fest
2407:); for me, this brings to mind
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3591:Category:Black Library authors
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3622:Vegaswikian
3406:Vegaswikian
3279:Google News
3224:Vegaswikian
3160:Vegaswikian
3091:nationality
881:Merge into
628:Glenfarclas
91:Vegaswikian
3684:HairedGirl
3534:HairedGirl
3468:HairedGirl
3290:HairedGirl
2776:HairedGirl
2685:HairedGirl
2586:Julie Bell
2042:HairedGirl
1988:HairedGirl
1841:Richhoncho
1807:HairedGirl
1748:HairedGirl
1718:HairedGirl
705:Richhoncho
585:Richhoncho
284:HairedGirl
3706:per nom.
3136:Greg Bard
3025:mannequin
2910:Greg Bard
2627:Greg Bard
2120:WP:CATGRS
2005:WP:CATGRS
1981:WP:CATGRS
1353:merge all
1260:municipiu
1142:Mayumashu
1120:Eckington
987:Mattinbgn
917:Mattinbgn
892:Mayumashu
306:Mayumashu
135:Erebedhel
3692:contribs
3542:contribs
3476:contribs
3298:contribs
3029:Brunnian
2842:, (what
2784:contribs
2736:Brunnian
2693:contribs
2680:/etc. --
2568:Brunnian
2504:Matches
2050:contribs
1996:contribs
1924:Keep all
1831:I meant
1815:contribs
1756:contribs
1726:contribs
1268:Kotniski
1112:Staveley
821:Relisted
722:- Since
668:Redirect
577:Redirect
292:contribs
55:March 29
43:March 30
38:March 28
20: |
3708:Johnbod
3649:history
3433:history
3251:history
3118:Johnbod
3069:clipman
3062:Jubilee
2906:Comment
2817:clipman
2810:Jubilee
2798:clothes
2794:Comment
2759:choster
2751:Comment
2732:Comment
2703:Comment
2658:Comment
2637:Comment
2564:choster
2366:Con(s)
2363:Pro(s)
2360:Option
2273:Upmerge
2212:Comment
2185:clipman
2178:Jubilee
2151:Comment
2131:clipman
2124:Jubilee
2088:clipman
2081:Jubilee
1890:clipman
1883:Jubilee
1873:Comment
959:Comment
926:Comment
905:Comment
756:Nyttend
683:clipman
676:Jubilee
572:Delete'
546:history
516:Jafeluv
433:Comment
277:Neutral
229:history
3725:gidonb
3721:Delete
3704:Delete
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3618:Delete
3558:gidonb
3554:Delete
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3509:Delete
3496:Occuli
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3457:Delete
3402:Delete
3331:Delete
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3310:Delete
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3275:Delete
3220:Delete
3144:Rename
3102:Oppose
3087:gender
3041:While
2958:Oppose
2954:Rename
2830:Rename
2780:(talk)
2719:Occuli
2689:(talk)
2570:, and
2254:gidonb
2231:gidonb
2217:gidonb
2197:gidonb
2062:gidonb
2046:(talk)
2009:gidonb
1992:(talk)
1932:gidonb
1828:Delete
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1790:Occuli
1780:. And
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1364:gidonb
1351:, and
1283:Rename
1244:, and
1219:rename
1155:Rename
1124:Occuli
1064:rename
936:. See
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752:Delete
720:Delete
655:Korath
617:Delete
600:Delete
512:Delete
288:(talk)
199:delete
3682:Brown
3657:watch
3653:links
3532:Brown
3466:Brown
3441:watch
3437:links
3288:Brown
3259:watch
3255:links
3058:Split
3047:could
3007:and
3001:Agree
2982:seems
2927:AllyD
2774:Brown
2711:Model
2683:Brown
2645:AllyD
2615:, or
2040:Brown
1986:Brown
1899:Merge
1879:Merge
1833:merge
1805:Brown
1774:Merge
1746:Brown
1716:Brown
1707:Merge
1342:merge
967:teams
847:and
827:. --
554:watch
550:links
439:. As
376:. --
366:merge
282:Brown
237:watch
233:links
201:. --
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3015:and
2970:talk
2931:talk
2917:The
2891:and
2880:Keep
2876:, or
2763:talk
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