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1238:- "A zine is most commonly a small circulation publication of original or appropriated texts and images. More broadly, the term encompasses any self-published work of minority interest usually reproduced via photocopier." Not helpful to categorize, essentially the same as a category for users who read "magazines" or "books" or "newspapers". None of these general terms are capable of supporting collaboration, and I'd guess the vast majority of zines are non-notable. 805:
The nom, by lumping all these numerous cats together, is not giving each one a fair chance to be examined individually. When it comes to a musician, there is often good reason to have a category, even and especially for those with a few albums and/or songs. Many times, it is a good way to put all
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should probably go, or more content found. Most of the above have 2 subcats (songs and albums): the nom is correct in thinking these would have been deleted last year. Those with 3 or more subcats have been no-consensus keeps for some years.
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I also agree with that standard. If it has one subcat and no other non-head articles, it should probably go. Other than that, I'm cool with it. (Per the precedents, most of the drum-banging against eponymous musician categories came from
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Some are small and others are not small (articles in subcats automatically belong to the parent). Some have 1 subcat (in which case I might well agree), others have 3 or 4 (in which case I do not agree).
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I chose these particular eponymous categories because these are the ones with too few articles in them. After all, a bunch of small, eponymous categories like these were
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I wouldn't say it's required, but it's helpful when we are dealing with categories to make the name of the category the same as the name of the lead article.
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all these categories are populated: they have entries and more than one. Better justification must be advanced for deletion.
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per nom. It's all well and good having a userbox saying you like this person, but to have a category is a step too far! –
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per nom. So who cares what sort of media Wikipedians read! Lets build WP and not set up a social network!. --
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If a category contains "songs" and "albums" subcategories, that's justifies it enough for me.--
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and deleted. Keeping these categories would contradict the outcome of those discussions.
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I am adding them here rather than as a separate matter, as the issue is the same.
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their works together in a single place and make them easy for others to find.
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would have gone in the era of Otto (but seems perfectly reasonable to me).
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would have been fiercely contested but probably kept in the era of Otto.
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as part of an overall category structure in the history field.
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can be reasonable sometimes. These categories, however, are
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The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion.
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in it, but the others are overkill (some over-overkill).
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as a record of Christmas Island history. Also keep
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion
Log
December 17
December 19
deletion review
Mike Selinker
talk
00:41, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
Category:Sweet
Category:Sweet (band)
Sweet (band)
Sweet
Good Ol’factory
23:22, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
Karppinen
talk
23:26, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
Alan Liefting
talk
03:36, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
Queen (band)
Category:Queen (band)
Leo

04:49, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
Good Ol’factory
01:31, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
deletion review
deletion review
Mike Selinker

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