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2999:- a somewhat legendary name used in English for a faraway exotic or unknowable place someone could go to or be sent to or come from. It doesn't simply sound cool and novel, it's actually used somewhere popularly/notably. If the name of the location doesn't sound novel to begin with than it falls flat/doesn't convey the point being made, thus it can't simply be anything. The subjectivity is on par with that of 'humor' or 'irony'." 2299:. I considered both sides of this and had a look at the articles, and I must say I agree with what Tassedethe says above. I can't see evidence that this is a defining feature of each of these stories, and I think we should default to the general practice of deleting categories that categorize stories etc. by character that appears in them. I think we need a stronger case to be made to keep this and rename it to something like 1471:- I seem to recall this issue of diplomats vis-a-vis expatriates coming up before -- in fact, I think it may even have been in connection with diplomats posted to Japan (or perhaps it was China). In any event, my view is that in general it's best not to categorize diplomats in terms of their particular postings, since they usually move around a good deal during the course of a career. I suppose they 507:: "If logical membership of one category implies logical membership of a second, then the first category should be made a subcategory (directly or indirectly) of the second." "When making one category a subcategory of another, ensure that the members of the first really can be expected (with possibly a few exceptions) to belong to the second also." QED. 2431:
cause of death in reliable sources. If we can't categorize a person's article by a particular cause of death with confidence, then best practice would be to not have any cause of death category at all. It isn't like there is some tight clockwork system operating here that would be blinkered by some bio articles omitting a cause of death category.
1249:. The usual method on Knowledge (XXG) is to use local spellings of words, and in New Zealand these landforms are called fiords. I realise that all the other "fjord by nation" categories use "fj-", but this is no different from, say one or two countries using "neighborhood" rather than "neighbourhood", which we cope with easily enough. 305:- as a form of overcategorizing performers based on production companies. This is exactly like any of the hundreds of categories for such people as "Disney actors" or "Teen Nick performers" and the like that have gone by the wayside. If there are reliable sources that indicate this is a notable achievement then by all means listify. ( 3017:
to refer to a place in that is "faraway" ("Timbuktu") or somehow "everyday" ("Springfield") or a somehow otherwise generic sense and that quote is verfiable, do we add the place to the list? At the end of the day, it just seems kind of arbitrary arbitrary and not really a defining aspect of the place
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problems, basically by functioning like a heckler's veto; no matter how much reliable sources agree on a particular cause, this category could be applied to dispute that based purely on minority (or even solitary) opinion. And it seems like a poor proxy for cases where there is simply no agreed upon
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are not stories with Mrs Hauksbee but short story collections. I just don't see much evidence that that this is defining characteristic of any of these stories. It is not the category's role to tell us things? No, it should not tell us more than the article, and if these articles are recategorized as
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Yes, I think what you suggest could be a good idea, probably, in that it would help avoid any disputes over this issue (if there ever have been any, I'm not sure). Although .... it is true that some diplomats never leave their home country at all. For example, an American diplomat who is working as a
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is administered through the US Department of Labor. We have no article on it and it's not mentioned in the department's article. We generally don't consider this sort of an award for categorization. If kept it needs to be renamed to "inductees" per standard for HoF categories. Listify if anyone wants
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was featured in several Monty Python sketches, as were Bolton (Notlob) and Ipswich, but a place would have to almost without features for this to be a defining characteristic. (From Timbuktu to Kalamazoo it's a long way down the track.) We deleted 'James Bond locations' recently - that was at least
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Yeah, that is basically what I was thinking about, so thanks for laying that all out. What do you think of my closing suggestion that we avoid categorizing individual diplomats in specific expat categories, and instead simply parent each country's entire diplomat category under the respective expat
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make a category and keeping categories for musicians on the basis of having a songs and an albums category virtually ensures that virtually every musician since the invention of the phonograph will have an eponymous category. Is even the most die-hard category navigator going to be served by having
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The issue with "Stories by character" is that the category cannot tell us what role the character plays in the story. A "story with Mrs. Hauksbee" could be one in which she is the featured character, one in which she is a supporting character or one which simply includes a line like "Mrs. Hauksbee
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During the period 1961-1991 when South Africa was not in the Commonwealth Britain sent an Ambassador rather than a High Commissioner. Hence the longer category is more inclusive, although both earlier and at present a High Commissioner represents Britain in South Africa and vice versa. Note that
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expatriates in that country, since they aren't subject to the laws and visa requirements of the foreign jurisdiction in the same way that other non-nationals are, and often, their houses and places of work (embassies) are legally made part of the sovereign territory of the sending country, so
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But you're only "reflecting" the supposed new consensus, right? I mean, it's not like you argued for keeping all of the categories you offer as examples of this supposed new consensus or anything (except for how you actually did). This category does not have 33 articles. It has two.
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I think this is a defining attribute of most of the people in the category. Certainly the first thing I think of when thinking of individuals such as Edgar Allan Poe and Kurt Cobain. Blame people for mis-categorizing articles in the first place and remove the redundant entries.
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I understand what the idea is here, but in my opinion it is a little bit too obscure for a category, and I'm still not exactly sure what would formally qualify a place to be included in the category. If a name is used in a humorous way by
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It doesn't necessarily, but in these cases the character defines the athmosphere and setting on which the stories hinge. The category doesn't tell you that, but as I keep saying, it is not a category's role to tell you things.
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that you have some emotional attachment to Star Control-related content. Can you explain why the existing links within the various Star Control-related article do not serve to connect these three articles?
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was deleted, it doesn't really make sense to keep this one either. Seems like differing standards, especially when the other (the latter) was far more black and white,and less potentially contentious.
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pre-Union, Milner was Governor of Cape Colony as well as High Commissioner (not sure about Natal) so had a different role to later High Commissioners. See for list of holders of the positions
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There is nothing gained by destroying the category. Just because its small(since people have deleted or merged the dozens of articles that use to be part of it) doesn't mean it isn't valid.
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technically they don't even live and work in a foreign country. But it's all very technical, and I don't see the need to distinguish diplomats in a country from other expatriates there.
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I think the main problem is that it is not clear that it does (define the atmosphere and setting on which the stories hinge). All these are articles are poorly referenced and only one (
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was a competitive reality series and because many reality show contestants are notable only as reality contestants their categories are often treated a little differently)
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looked up from her glass of gin and was appalled at the goings-on." The article on the character can include sourced analysis on her appearances in the various stories.
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I'm rather confused as to how the mere presence of a fictional character within a story makes that character's presence a defining characteristic of the story.
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It is defining - you are making the blatently incorrect assumption that all categories are optimally named! This is an argument for renaming not deleting.
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barely says that. The other stories mention the character appears but not that she is any more important or central than any other particular character.
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I am not sure I understand what you mean by "this is a defining attribute of most of the people in the category" but, again, why keep this category if
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Euh. Skip that - I misunderstood the point of the category. I was thinking more in terms of Gotham City being based on New York, and the like.
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Small categories are not necessarily useless. It makes sense to group these and the parent category seems full of similarly small categories:
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UN official at UN headquarters may never leave New York City, let alone the United States. So I'm not sure if it's a perfect solution or not.
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It seems that there should be an article on this. Wouldn't that be the middle choice between the extremes of nothing at all and a category?
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This is an unnecessary, amateurish and redundant category. All of those categorized here already have been categorized in either
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tightly-defined. If there is enough material for 'Timbuktu in fiction' then that article could go in some sort of category but
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It is not the job of a category to "tell us" things, but to group articles that fulfill certain defined criteria.
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has 2 members and is therefore small? Or is this somehow different? Does it follow that there are just 2 people?
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the reasoning. I just think it's bullshit in service of creating and maintaining worthless categories.
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I note your seemingly irremediable lack of understanding. In the meantime there are now more subcats.
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has two direct entries (one article and one portal), along with many sub-categories, whose contents
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Overcategorization with little room for expansion. The scope of the category is also very vague.
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be regarded as expatriates, but I don't think there's any need to stick them in expat categories
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tens of thousands of categories named after musicians? Does the average reader, or anyone,
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and wonder, "gee, I wonder what other musicians have categories?" Nonsense. And yes,
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then that would definitely be telling us more than the information in the articles.
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Ah, the transitive property of categorization. I don't buy it. And just because we
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itself is a city in West Africa, not a 'Novel name of a non-fictional place' (
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Would they all count as sea lochs, or is there a difference between the two?
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I'm not seeing the sources to support an independent article on the HoF.
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion
Log
September 13
September 15
deletion review
Good Ol’factory
01:44, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Category:New York Giants (baseball)
Category:New York Giants (NL)
New York Giants (PL)
Category:New York Giants (NL) players
Category:New York Giants (NL) field personnel
Dewelar
talk
22:47, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Pichpich
talk
22:51, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
deletion review
deletion review
Îľ

08:31, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
Category:Worked for WWE, WCW, ECW and TNA
edit
talk
history
links
watch
logs

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