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1756:: Perhaps as Koavf mentioned, it seems that the purpose would be topics in which color is chosen because of its meaning in some other context, as distinguished from where the color is natural or was chosen arbitrarily. I would say this category could be useful, though some of the articles in it right now aren't very good examples. A better example of appropriate topics (which I don't see on Knowledge (XXG) yet) would be "Green in symbolism" or something like that. " 434:{{cite web|url=http://movies.nytimes.com/2011/02/02/movies/02troub.html?sq=David Crosby&st=cse&adxnnl=1&scp=1&adxnnlx=1296997326-O8SMXwj7ugDmL9hIRrr3ag|title=Troubadors Recalling the Reign of Taylor and King|last=Holden|first=Stephen|date=February 1, 2011|work=Review of a documentary about the golden era of the Singer-songwriters 1968-1973|publisher=''The New York Times''|accessdate=19 October 2011}}</ref: --> 1265:
and buried in Baltimore, and one was born in Venezuela, the son of a diplomat from Baltimore. Only one was actually born in the state. The whole thing strikes me as a trivial intersection, especially if this low standard is going to be accepted; considering that most of these are going to be military men, the number of states that most of them have some connection with is going to be pretty large.
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For one thing, whoever is populating these categories is justifying this with extremely tenuous connections which I for one would not categorize as being "from". For example, of the four people with ships listed under "Maryland", one has no stated association with the state, one was born in Colorado
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appears to be the main topic article, though that article is very incomplete. I'm sure there could be articles about why, for example, leftist movements such as labor unions and socialism use the color red. All that being said: I'm not sure there are a lot of
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are historically correct, however, the term has now widened to include any singer who (sometimes) also writes their own songs, therefore claims of "genre" are completely weakened to meaningless. The
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This seems impossibly vague to me--what are the inclusion criteria? Any time that color is associated with a political ideology, religious group, military tradition, etc.? —
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I'm upmerging these so that their connection to their state doesn't get lost; people can delete those category links later if desired. I'm also upmerging the related
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Of the few albums I checked none defined the album as a "singer-songwriter" album, so it looks like these categories also fail under the guidelines, too.
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for articles left behind by others without pics, references etc.--and poor writing and categorization!! There should not be a category for their
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We probably need a global discussion on city/province categories in Spain, since we've had a bunch of discussions and no clear direction.--
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does this include people from territories before they became states? (or people from territories from which states were carved out of?)
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emerged in the 1960s. Generalization? They'd perform their own material which often had a message they wanted to convey. They include
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It seems that these categories are categorizing albums of artists by occupation. Aside from being incorrectly being categorized under
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Singer-songwriters are musicians who write, compose and sing their own musical material including lyrics and melodies
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limited to the genre? Some sort of distinction needs to be made in the category name between the two. —
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I understand the roots of the phrase, but this is way too spongy a term for our encyclopedic usage.--
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rename to "Metaphors referring to colors," or some such name, and keep, if there was any interest.
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the album as having the characteristic—not just mention it in passing or for completeness).
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covers all musicians who write, compose and sing their own music—as a profession—why is
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of music as well as an occupation of a kind of folk/pop singer. If (e.g.)
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should be upmerged both to that parent that and to the
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion
Log
October 13
October 15
deletion review
Good Ol’factory
01:43, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Category:Singer-songwriter albums
Category:Singer-songwriter compilation albums‎
Category:Singer-songwriter EPs‎
Category:Live singer-songwriter albums‎
Category:Singer-songwriter video albums‎
Category:Rock albums by genre
Category:Singer albums
Category:Singer-lyricist albums
Category:Rapper albums
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22:19, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
Allrovi
The ideology of genre: a comparative study of generic instability
Rock: A Canadian Perspective
The words and music of Carole King
Andrzejbanas
talk
22:34, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
Category:Singer-songwriters
Category:Singer-songwriter albums
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