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301:. The issue is not the category; the issue is the individuals placed in it. I agree that self-identification should be fully documented. IMHO, it should be possible to do this for many of these names. (Legislators of Greek ancestry, for example, tend to identify themselves as Orthodox Christians, as it is politically beneficial in communities with strong Greek ethnic communities such as Astoria, New York and Melbourne, Victoria. Since the category is only twenty-four hours old, the solution is to keep the category and remove entries which are not appropriately documented. 1639:, although some of those listed may not have been born in Eqypt, the mere fact that they practised in Egypt should qualify them to being referred to as Egyptian physicians (the concept of citizenship, even if Egypt had been a sovereign state, did not exist in the medieval period). However, some of those listed are clearly not Arab, and, accordingly, a merger into 284:. A cross-categorization of legislators by religious denomination. Already being misused by putting living people in it without citation of self-identification. There are no other cross-categorization of legislators by denomination or even by major religions, why should this denomination be an exception? 1596:: Without knowing too much about practitioners of medicine in Medieval Egypt, is it possible that some in the former category were Medieval physicians that practised in Egypt, but were not Egyptian, and that some in the latter category were Medieval Egyptian physicians who did not practise in Egypt? 320:
This is a non-notable intersection, for the most part. To a very large degree, this particular version is simply a placeholder for national origin; in other cases (e.g. all the many, many Anglicans) there's no expectation that an Anglican politician's church allegiance means something about his
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I could agree with renaming, and you're probably right about its relevance. As a category, its relevant but it would only have at most, 20 articles in it; so it might be better to make this a sub-category of the Category:Respiratory therapy?
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Category based on users not really needed, similar categories have been deleted in the past. Use of user based categories for example on the Lockheed Hercules could require more than 70 user categories (The C-47 would need hundreds).
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legislative record. There are a relative few notable cases where members of certain churches and religions have had to overcome prejudices in order to get elected, but I think it's extremely safe to say that few Marylanders knew that
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as the nom says, this practice has been opposed in the past by consensus. The category pileup in most cases at the bottom of an article would be obstructive rather than constructive. (And this case there is an adequate existing
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is regarded as the term internationally as descriptive of the entire scope of pulmonary function testing and research, as a sub-category of respiratory therapy/respiratory care.
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per nom - by-nation aircraft/weapon categories should be by manufacturer/designer, not by user, as the latter is only in a few, extremely rare, cases in any way defining. -
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per nom - by-nation aircraft/weapon categories should be by manufacturer/designer, not by user, as the latter is only in a few, extremely rare, cases in any way defining. -
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as is. This is a standard category pattern used in many situations thoughout WP. The parents are different and would not be correct with a single consolidated category.
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per nom. We've considered this type of intersection before, and we've always decided to delete, AFAIK. I have added the subcategories to the nomination.
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This category has no reason to exist except to be a by-country category. Alternatively, we could go the other direction.--
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Apology - Tidying up and moved some of the entries into country categories while this discussion was still open.
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This is actually a textbook case of speedy renaming since the corresponding article is
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there can be other ways to categorize helicopter makers than just by country.
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Foo aircraft is the norm for this family of aircraft produced by categories.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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would seem to be non-Egyptian, but practising in Egpyt. Perhaps a merger of
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Noted. I've updated the nomination to allow for the reverse-merge as well.--
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would be a better option, or the appropriate subcategory in
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as a replacement category would be good. Considering
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No further edits should be made to this section. 593:Category:Modern aircraft of the Australian Army 545:Category:Modern aircraft of the Australian Army 783:being moved to the correct name, so it meets 779:- this needs to be renamed on account of the 8: 1351:Category:Helicopter manufacturers by country 1338:Category:Helicopter manufacturers by country 1079:is clearer and better for categorization. -- 1466:Category:Defunct helicopter manufacturers 18:Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion 1198:Category:Spitfire Helicopters aircraft 1602:Category:Medieval physicians of Egypt 1572:Category:Medieval Egyptian physicians 1568:Category:Medieval physicians of Egypt 1521:Category:Medieval physicians of Egypt 1395:In their own by-country categories.-- 950:List of aircraft of the Fleet Air Arm 235:Category:Eastern Orthodox Legislators 190:Category:Eastern Orthodox Legislators 7: 1381:. So where do the articles wind up? 423:Category:Pulmonary function testing 28: 1641:Category:Medieval Arab physicians 1606:Category:Medieval Arab physicians 1545:The result of the discussion was: 1462:Category:Helicopter manufacturers 1355:Category:Helicopter manufacturers 1334:Category:Helicopter manufacturers 1310:The result of the discussion was: 1286:Category:Helicopter manufacturers 1245:. This can be speedy renamed per 1207:Category:Aircraft by manufacturer 1169:The result of the discussion was: 1011:The result of the discussion was: 848:The result of the discussion was: 713:The result of the discussion was: 569:The result of the discussion was: 396:The result of the discussion was: 214:The result of the discussion was: 89:The result of the discussion was: 470:Respiratory science and research 872:Category:Fleet Air Arm aircraft 824:Category:Fleet Air Arm aircraft 486:14:39, 27 September 2011 (UTC) 465:03:12, 27 September 2011 (UTC) 447:01:21, 27 September 2011 (UTC) 1: 1635:. As regards the comments of 1194:Category:Spitfire Helicopters 1145:Category:Spitfire Helicopters 1041:Category:Unmanned helicopters 126:Category:Barwell F.C. players 30: 1653:15:16, 11 October 2011 (UTC) 1633:Category:Medieval physicians 1610:Category:Medieval physicians 1560:12:29, 23 October 2011 (UTC) 1326:17:25, 23 October 2011 (UTC) 1186:22:11, 13 October 2011 (UTC) 1120:18:39, 11 October 2011 (UTC) 1026:09:45, 16 October 2011 (UTC) 863:09:46, 16 October 2011 (UTC) 742:Category:Vale class gunboats 738:Category:Vale class gunships 730:22:12, 13 October 2011 (UTC) 689:Category:Vale class gunships 584:09:47, 16 October 2011 (UTC) 411:12:29, 23 October 2011 (UTC) 347:00:38, 20 October 2011 (UTC) 335:14:29, 11 October 2011 (UTC) 229:12:29, 23 October 2011 (UTC) 122:Category:Barwell F.C players 114:08:53, 13 October 2011 (UTC) 65:Category:Barwell F.C players 1620:06:00, 9 October 2011 (UTC) 1589:02:21, 7 October 2011 (UTC) 1496:09:13, 9 October 2011 (UTC) 1477:21:49, 8 October 2011 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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion
Log
October 6
October 8
deletion review
WP:C1
This, that
the other (talk)
08:53, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Category:Barwell F.C players
Category:Barwell F.C. players
Boissière
talk
21:15, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
Occuli
talk
11:16, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
deletion review
deletion review
Mike Selinker
talk
12:29, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
Category:Eastern Orthodox Legislators
edit
talk
history
links
watch
logs
Category:Eastern Orthodox Parliamentarians (Canada)

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