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1495:. We don't have a scheme for categorization of shareholders of companies, and for good reason!—categorizing organizations or people for holding shares in a particular company would lead to enormous category clutter. Companies can have thousands–even millions—of shareholders. This is overcategorization in a major way. 263:
as a city) . The better solution is to make it clear from the article what the date range is that the city bore this name, and just format the category as we format all "people from" categories. There is no need to make up ad-hoc new category formats when the standard format will work just fine.
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I think there should be a daterange attached to that, to make it clear what it is for, since some people still refer to the city as Constantinople, and Constantinople has been used to refer to the city when it was Byzantium during the Hellenic period. I do support removing the demonymic form and
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Category of dubious value using a highly dubious title. A "high" is not a scientific term: the cocaine/heroin/cannabis highs are the symptoms of cocaine/heroin/cannabis intoxication and are, contrary to the statement in the current hatnote, the exact analog of drunkenness.
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Do we really need a date range here or do we need a simple rewrite to the article to clarify how long the city existed with that name? It is in the article introduction, but not a fact that jumps out at you.
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I agree that the latter would be a preferable approach. We don't generally include date ranges in "people from" categories to indicate what years the name of the place was really the name of the place.
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per nom. On the members/fellows issue, we only use fellows if the organization itself does so. This organization may, but someone needs to provide this, with sources, in the list article if it is so.
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about membership uses the word "members". I don't know if this is correct or not, but I suggest using "members" for consistency unless someone can demonstrate that it should be "fellows".
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The current name is adequate: after the earthquake, some nuclear plants (in Onagawa, in Rokkasho, in Tokai) had to deal with 'incidents'. See for a similar distinction:
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per nom. This is not a defining characteristic for most individuals and such categorization would create horrible clutter for anyone possessing an E-trade account...
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This highlights an interesting discrepancy. Across most of Knowledge, we use the phrase 'accidents and incidents'. However, within the category system, we have
142:(modern Istanbul) during the Byzantine Empire (330–1453)". I don't see any reason we should not use the standard "People from FOO" format for this category. 861: 180: 650:
The current name is just fine and does not need to be disambiguated. The article is thus named to leave way for a dab page to avoid confusion with the
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in general we classify people by city with no regards to what the city was then called. Istanbul is Constantinople. This is a sub-section of
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Are there any others? Two categories and a subcategory of members might not be enough to warrant a category, but it here are more, maybe ...
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per Stefanomione (did I really just say that? : ) - It looks like the parents are the ones which need the rename, per BF above. -
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I don't see anything about the highest building, highest flight, highest jump, High Schools, etc, here.
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this definition could incude every single person who owns just one share. Could get rather silly.
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would include those who lived there when it was called Leopoldville for example.
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do not limit themselves to when the name in question was used for the place.
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Even a broken clock is correct twice per d...no, no, no—I take it back.
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per Stefanomione. Also per scheme, which is "accidents and incidents" (
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owning shares in Yahoo is not a defining aspect of an organization.
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There are a small number of other articles in the category such as
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Category:Members of the Norwegian Academy of Science and Letters
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my first expectation was that the category would include
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Index

Knowledge:Categories for discussion
Log
May 13
May 15
talk page
deletion review
Constantinopolitans should get the works
The Bushranger
One ping only
20:09, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Category:Constantinopolitans
Category:People from Constantinople
Constantinople
Good Ol’factory
23:14, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
70.24.251.208
talk
04:41, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Category:People from Constantinople (330-1453)
Category:People from Pittsburg, California
John Pack Lambert
talk
22:11, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
Vegaswikian
talk
00:28, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
Good Ol’factory
00:54, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
Category:People from Istanbul
Category:People from Kinshasa

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