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2791:: Google books gives these numbers: 2,480 for "Count of Louvain", 157 for "Count of Leuven". Google Scholar has 77 for "Count of Louvain" and 12 for "Count of Leuven". BrownHairedGirl is correct to say "the French version of the name appears to be more widely used in English". A good parallel can be drawn with the city of
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for the usual reasons. A category is merely to categorize, not to give information, and so far as these groups of people are referred to collectively, the "Old Fooian" form is the common name for them. There is no real issue with ambiguity, as so far as I am aware old people (or former residents) of
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So, can you explain exactly what the advantages are which you believe are offered to the reader by an "old Fooian" term over a descriptive one? The "old Fooian" term should be explained in the category page, so using the Fooian term as the name conveys no extra information. Why should it be on the
1920:. That's a novel approach that I don't think I've heard expressed before, at least not in this way. A category is not to give information? If that is true, we should probably not have naming conventions for categories at all, since as long as it's a category, it's doing its job.
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1578:Northampton School for Boys
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2614:Category:Counts of Louvain
1715:Category:Old Bromsgrovians
1604:Category:Old Wimbledonians
1497:157,000 hits for the house
1469:Category:Old Badmintonians
1292:Category:Old Bromsgrovians
1283:Category:Old Wimbledonians
1220:Category:Old Blackburnians
1202:Category:Old Badmintonians
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