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2202:, we see that it is common for the subcategories to use this formulation ("Cold War ships" rather than "Ships of the Cold War," "Korean War ships" rather than "Ships of the Korean War," "Gulf War ships" rather than "Ships of the Gulf War," "World War I ships" rather than "Ships of World War I," etc.), making it a little hard to determine which formulation to choose. However, the majority of ship categories to seem to use the formulation that you propose, and I don't see any problem with changing the category's name as you propose (although I'd recommend leaving a soft redirect in place if you do). In fact, one could easily argue that there are quite a few other categories – like the ones I point out above – that should be reformulated in the same way for the sake of consistency across categories, which would be a good outcome. Thanks! 2654:
award winners. We have articles on awards, so we have to group them together in categories. That is what is going on in the category you linked to. True we have an unaccetably high amount of award categories, and a high level of squemishness at deleting them, with some sort of view that we need them for some awards, which is not really supported by the guideline. Per the guideline we really should have way fewer awards cats, but whenever an award cat gets nominated for deletion its special defenders come out and do battle for it, and even when they don't people just ignore the nomination.
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different category. However, in reality I think the same principals would apply across the board. In fact, the problems of not easily being able to encompass places that once were such would be a lot worse in the Native American and African-American situations, considering that there are places in the US that were Native American communities before the European incursion, or that South Carolina and Louisana both in the past had African-American majority populations but do not today.
2993:- "A category for a director's films should be created even if they have only directed one film (irrespective of whether they are likely to direct more in the future), providing that the director already has an article." This mirrors the structure for the category Albums by artist. Also note that the nominator removed the category from the article - I've since restored it. 2560:, so that I do not see why we should not have this one. This will be for a lifetime of service; that is different from the typical awards category, which are effectively for prize winners. This is a notable distinction; I am not sure who awards it, but it is similar in status to those awarded by governments. 695:
as i can tell the best solution would be to listify. I just renamed what was posing as a general list to what it actually was, a list of such communities based on the 2010 census. It might be worth creating such a list for the 2000 census. Otherwise in theory we will get places in this category and in either
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which is in this category. In 2000 its population was 54% Hispanic. By 2010 its population was 44% Hispanic and it no longer fits the category. What do we do though? At one point it had a Hispanic majority population, so if this is a fixed trait, than how can we remove the categorization. As far
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It is true that we discorage award categories. The overcat guidleines on awards say "People can and do receive awards and/or honors throughout their lives. In general (though there are a few exceptions to this), recipients of an award should be grouped in a list rather than a category." If this is
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was impossibly vague: "I think this whole tree needs to be deleted, and some related trees as well". You not only failed to set out an explicit list, but you defined the scope so vaguely that there was no clear way of telling what you meant. You were asking the bot-owner to guess what you meant, and
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I went through and requested a bot to tag the subcats. It is not my fault that was not done. So much for the claims that mass tagging is easy. On another note, in the 18th-century the majority of the population of Texas was Native Americans who would not be in any meaninful way seen as Hispanics.
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However that does not work with places. With people these is an understanding that once someone fits a category they always do. However, it does not make sense to put this type of category on a place that it only applied to 100 years ago. Likewise we do not put places currenly in Russia or Poland
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The other articles may have have to be standardized, including this one, though -- but it should be in format/phrasing, and not on using a universal term for everyone. These include capitalization and word order (is it "Foreign minister of Foo" or "Fooian Foriegn Secretary" or what?). Nevertheless,
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If the list is linked to from the category it has clearly been created. The first place on the list has the 2010 percentage and would not even qualify for the list if it was based on the 2000 census. The list is horribly made and I have no clue why when people changed the list over to being based
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have been put in this category although the only demographic data in that article is from the 2000 census which lists its population as 48% Hispanic, thus less than half, thus it should not be in the category based on what the article says (evidently according to the list it was significantly over
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You are misinterpreting things. First off, just because people blatantly ignore policy in some cases does not mean we should stop trying to apply it. Secondly, you have misinterpreted the category you linked to. Categories for awards and categories of awards are not the same as categories for
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Excellent rationale put forward. Nominator has nailed the difference between "song" and "recording." I note that this nomination also affects instrumentals, as well as songs, I am happy to run with the proposed new name because I can't find a better solution and feel that "songs" intuitively
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Technically, no, I just figured we should start the discussion somewhere. The category names themselves are long and complexed to begin with, and the split by state makes this even more difficult to deal with. That said, I could argue that Hispanicness, being an ethnicity, not a race, is a
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The presence of a majority Hispanic population is a strong defining characteristic and an effective aid to navigation for readers across articles with a rather clear common characteristic. That the population dipped below at some point hardly changes the relevance of the status.
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but they are not produced as would be defined by this category, but rather it is the recording of such songs that are produced. I am also including one subcategory in this nomination and will nominate the other 443 child categories pending a positive outcome of this nomination.
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You are ignoring the fact that it is not fixed. As I pointed out with a place in North Dakota, some places that fit this criteria in 2000 no longer fit it now. This is a changable characteristic and not and that change and time sensitive nature can be shown by lists, but not
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on the 2010 cnesus they did not edit the listed sources, but your assertyion that it is based on other than the 2010 census is false, and if you had bothered to read even one article linked you would see that the percentage is the 2010 figure and not the 2000 figure.
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Substantively, I think that this is a bad way to categorise places, because of the arbitrary threshold of 50% and the changeability of the figures. For example, I presume that Texas was majority hispanic in the 18th century? So I'd support listifying the
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when I was a bot-owner I would not have taken up that job. If you list the categories in the nomination, and then ask for that list to be tagged in a precise way, then you'll get a much quicker response. See for example the 3-hour completion time of
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We have never done categories that intersect city and ethnicity in the United States. Due to the level at which people in the US move and the amount people have multiple ancestries this would create a nightmare. If we were to rename it is should be
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This is really the sort of thing that people who want genuinely accurate information need to query the census for. I note that Ardoch has a population report of 67, meaning that the difference between 54% and 44% is less than five people.
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all per nom. No way to keep these accurate, it's just a recipe for clutter and wrong data. Listify, if desired, but using the latest census data - these cats don't store much information right now that can't be gotten from better
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I made no assertions there were lists; you did; you are therefore to provide lists. You seem very confused about roles. Doing the required work without snarky comments is all that it takes to be a good worker here.
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which is both in Czech communities in the United States and this category. And what happens if before the next census Pilsen gets inhabited by a new wave of immigrants, should we then remove it from this
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since 1-we use the x of y descent form, and 2-we use from to describe a connection between people and cities. However this will just invite way too many possible categories. We should upmerge to
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a defining characteristic of the prizes. They are specifically for achievements in science and peace and commemorate Albert Einstein's achievements in those areas. The arguments that applied to
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We should not have categories for proze winners. I observe that there is a a subcategory for "Albert Einstein medal". That should not exist: it should be listified and deleted.
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are no longer serving as president. There will be places that are majority Hispanic in one census and not in another. I'm fine with that, as the characteristic remains defining.
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is "Delete", it would leave the subcategories in a precarious position. If I don't hear from someone within 5 hours, I'm going to relist, with the subcategories included. —
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but do it carefully because there are two problems. "The Most Venerable Order" and "Venerable Order" are the same Order of St. John (being the British/Protestant Order). The
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The current name for this category is somewhat oddly formed; it's clear a better one is needed, but I'm not 100% sure the proposed name is ideal, so suggestions are invited.
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I think we should consider renaming the parent. It seems to be an attempt to impose British usage on everyone, and that has lead to this imposition of it on the Phillipines.
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I see no reason not to delete those, but am not sure really. What is clear is that this category is being used in non-natable ways and needs to go.
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It's hard to see how prizes could be better linked. If you take away the common factors that I have described, what is left? Can you explain how
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just because its director didn't happen to direct another film afterward? It's meant to be a comprehensive tree that includes all films, and is
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We deleted that category, we should delete this one. In general we discorage award categories, that is why we should get rid of this award cat.
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grouping together prizes because they all happen to be named after the same person is a grouping by shared name which we very heavily depricate.
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to cover the subject. The fact of the matter is that in the US people move too much between places for ethnicity by place to be a good idea.
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Order of St John. To recap, Venerable=British, Malta=Catholic & Brandenburg=German (The Malta order self identifies as Catholic).
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for awards. There are award cats which we generally discorage. Some of these people the award is not even mentioned in the article.
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The underlying problem with this category is that such categorizations are not fixed. The quickest example I can come up with is
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That is a big conditional "if used". As it is some of the articles do not even mention in the text the people receiving them.
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of some notable community members. But a category isn't appropriate for the reasons that have already been mentioned here.
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This should be closed to match "New Wave" above. My view is that it is probably correctly capiralised as a proper name.
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from the standard categorization structure that's applicable to all other films. What possible purpose would it serve for
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Is there anyway else I can categorize Armenians of Fresno? Its a very special Armenian community in the United States.
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and ignoring that many of those people were already in sub-cats of that category, I want us to upmerge in a stable way.
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for any who are not in those categories or subcats, but after the mess we created by upmerging categories like
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That's one of the sillier guidelines around here. I mean, what possible purpose does it serve? Oh, well.
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while that is an issue for another day, this has to be moved to the be aligned with its main article. –
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OK, I see it. But that does not reflect the reality. There is such a huge number of subcategories of
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that there's any real truth to your claim that it's "special", then by all means you can create an
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per JPL. This should not affect the naming of a parent, as titles vary from country to country.
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Your snarky comments advance no discussion and merely expose you. Work, not comments, are good.
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Perhaps, you could write an article about the Armenians of Fresno that is along the lines of the
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exists and it has 2,579 pages. It certainly isn't true to say we discourage award categories.
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Well, it was my first time making such a bot request. I tried to do it as well as I knew how.
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I'm going to assume folks are right about these being the same. If not, we might reverse.--
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article. If there are enough articles about the Armenians of Fresno, perhaps the category
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limited to films that happen to have been made by directors who made multiple films.
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supports keeping this, as it's part of an established scheme of films by director. —
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It's not a category for prize winners. It's a category for the prizes themselves.
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However the prizes are not linked with eachother, they are independent.
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in a category as places in Germany because they used to be in Germany.
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I now cannot see what was in the cateogry. 864:Also, I see you just renamed the article to be 410:Category:American musicians of Italian descent 2158:Category:Ships transferred under Project Hula 1916:Category:Foreign Ministers of the Philippines 1859:Category:Foreign Ministers of the Philippines 1622:, where they have been prematurely moved to. 200:Category:American musicans of Italian descent 8: 2592:I see it was deleted seven years ago. Well, 1776:, the other two categories that include it? 388:Category:American people of Armenian descent 250:Category:American people of Armenian descent 196:Category:American people of Armenian descent 1726:Category:Things named after Albert Einstein 1618:. I'm not sure that the contents belong in 1484:Category:Things named after Albert Einstein 3270:; so even if this is renamed it should be 2748:can sit under the British/Venerable Order. 1931:Secretary of Foreign Affairs (Philippines) 1768:is better linked to the other articles in 351:History of the Hmong in Merced, California 2299:Category:Officers of the Order of St John 1703:. Perhaps my vote above was not clear. 1533:(as author). I moved all items to parent 18:Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion 3289:Procedural close all three of these noms 2508:? Do we keep the knights and the dames? 2332:This may not be duplication. Should the 964:Category:Presidents of the United States 526:Category:Songs produced by George Martin 3020:It serves the purpose of not excluding 2887:Category:Films directed by Lillian Gish 2822:Category:Films directed by Lillian Gish 2558:Category:Officers of the British Empire 1482:. 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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion
Log
March 6
March 8
talk page
deletion review
The Bushranger
One ping only
22:37, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Category:Armenians from Fresno
edit
talk
history
links
watch
logs
Trivial intersection of ethnicity and town of residence.
TM
21:16, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
Proudbolsahye
talk
21:20, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
Category:American people of Armenian descent from Fresno
Category:People from Fresno, California
Category:American people of Armenian descent
Category:American musicans of Italian descent
Category:American musicans
John Pack Lambert
talk
22:39, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

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