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apparent seriousness. On your second comment, Phthiotic Thebes was abandoned in the 9th century, while Seven-gated Thebes is still inhabited and either way clearly the more important of the two (which is why it is known plainly as "Thebes", whereas the other town always is known with the adjective "Phthiotic" or "Thessalian" Thebes). That is why the latter is at "Thebes, Greece", so there is really no problem.
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So, the 4 largest groups of people of Latin American descent in the US (Mexican-Americans, Puerto Rican Americans, El Salvadoran Americans and Cuban Americans) all have origins outside South America. In fact I am pretty sure American people of Dominican Republic descent outnumber those of from any specific South American country, so these categories overlap very little.
630:"Plus it is not irrelevant that those articles don't exist. It signifies that they are not notable enough to deserve a page", wow, I never expected to see this argument in Knowledge. No, most emphatically no, it merely signifies that no-one has gotten around to researching and writing something about them yet, just as there was no article on the 2787:@Dwscomet; South America is not a race, but tracing descent to some place in South America due to not cultural/ethnic/race connection but just happenstance of birth (take Mitt Romney or John McCain as examples) is trivial. If we exclude the trivial, which we ought always do, esp. in BLPs, we're left with basically a racial/ethnic cat. 2959:, as container categories only. I'm not totally convinced we need to have overlapping trees for latin america and South/central/Caribbean, as the chance for things being left out just increases as categories evolve, but unless we do a prune of latin american categories at scale we should keep this one.-- 2572:
Latin America includes Mexico and most of the countries of Central and South America that use Romance languages. It doesn't include places like Suriname (Dutch) and the non-French edition of Guyana. South America never includes Mexico, and includes the non-Latin South American countries. So the first
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If/when you get around to writing articles about other Theban bishoprics that spawn a whole series or related articles that would be deserving of a category, then the debate could re-commence as to whether or not disambiguation by geography is needed. Until then, the issue is moot; we are not here to
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Erm, all Catholic titular sees correspond to actual sees that existed under the Roman Empire and, later, the Crusader states. So for Thebes in Egypt we are talking about actual, not titular, bishops from the 1st century until the Muslim conquest in the 640s, and for Phthiotic Thebes until the 8th/9th
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We are agreed that categories are named after their main article. So non-existent main articles result in non-existent categories. With only one category in existence, no problem exists, neither is there a need for disambiguation. It's a solution to a problem that doesn't yet exist. By the way, have
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Where have I disputed that "all Catholic titular sees correspond to actual sees"? Plus it is not irrelevant that those articles don't exist. It signifies that they are not notable enough to deserve a page which means that they are not notable enough to deserve a category which means that no conflict
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and the description in the category describe that it includes articles related to the Olympic Games. But the categories and articles include a wide-range of Olympic-related articles and categories including the Ancient Olympic Games and a range of various and sundry events and athletic competitions
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three episcopal sees of cities called Thebes in history; categories are named per their main article; whether the relevant categories exist or not right now is as irrelevant as whether a redlink should be unlinked; ergo, moving the bishops of "Thebes-in-Boeotia" to plain "Thebes", is wrong. Period.
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I do not think we need this level of contained categories. However, we should clearly not merge. Besides Mexico, Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Panama, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala and Nicaragua are all not in South America but in Latin America. The same may or may not be true of Puerto Rico.
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yet to be written about actual, historical and notable subjects. You could equally well begin a campaign to remove redlinks. So, this red herring aside, we are back to basics: "Thebes-in-Boeotia" is under "Thebes, Greece" in Knowledge, and rightly so per our disambiguation conventions; there were
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given to Catholic suffrigan bishops, but to substantive sees of the Orthodox and Coptic churches. I suspect that the Catholic church only chose these places as titular sees, because at an earlier period, before the schism, there were substantive bishops who were in communion with Rome for these
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Off-topic, but AfterElton would tend to complain whenever there was a gay villain character who was out-and-out crazy, or conversely praise one who was layered and deliciously evil. I suspect of the many texts about LGBT characters in comics (mostly superheroes), LGBT supervillains receive some
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Not a defining intersection category with gender; there is no "people who have explored both polar regions" parent. This is also a violation of the last-rung rule, and would tend to ghettoize these women. Finally, I just don't think we need these sorts of multi-categories - e.g. people who have
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So, Mexico and Cuba are both in North America and Latin America. Guyana is in South America but not in Latin America. I was looking for just one category when I was grouping descent categories by continent which is why I suggested a merge. Now that I know the distinction, it's clearer what the
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and the attendant category until I wrote it, and just as there are no articles on tens or hundreds of thousands of other notable subjects that still await to be written. The argument "no article yet, ergo not notable" is wrong in so many ways that it beggars belief you would actually use it in
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as indicated. COMMONALITY seems a good argument given the standing of the previous discussions (although, being British English myself, I don't really buy that organizations is considered to be the native spelling, even if it might have been deemed, in recent years, technically 'valid').
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is a Social Similarity/Language grouping of countries, the other strictly Geographic. I don't know what the best article is for the listing of countries, but they aren't equivalent and we seem to have the overlap sorted well already as the categories stand.
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It is not clear that the claims about there not being other bishops of Thebes are true. More to the point, we generally disambiguate things consistently even when not absolutely needed in a specific case. Thebes is ambiguous and so should in all cases be
1506:? Supervillains are relatively easy to define, and the specific portrayal or lack thereof of LGBT people in those roles is an interesting topic which a category can loosely deal with better than an article, which could well stray into POV/trivia. 2645:. These are simple categories based on divisions of nationalities by continent. not shared culture. I have the U.N. guidelines for "macro geographical (continental) regions and geographical sub-regions" and I guess I'll use that as a guide. 586:
century. The fact that these articles and categories don't yet exist is irrelevant. The parent article for the Greek city is "Thebes, Greece", and all categories that refer to it and are not unambiguous in some other way should follow it.
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I've never seen a category for a titular see. In any case, none of these titular sees has a Wiki page, let alone a category. So no need for disambiguation exists. If it did, the article page is where it would take place.
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Google is your friend Liz... Latin America includes some central american countries and caribbean countries. Its more or less a superset of south america, but not entirely, as a few countries like Guyana could be left
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What right to the Americans have to impose their spelling on to Thailand? Both Burma and Malaysia are next door and are former British colonies, so that they should be expected to use the preferred British spelling.
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I'm not a "category editor", just an editor. Since sources like the U.S. census are used on WP for ethnic categorizations, I don't consider the statistics office of the United Nations to just be a "source from
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decision should be. It's been a helpful discussion and although I now see that I could have found the answer elsewhere on Knowledge, I'm glad I made the proposal and could be better informed.
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in general, disputes over which English variety to use in an article are strongly discouraged. Such debates waste time and engender controversy, mostly without accomplishing anything positive.
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would only be in South America. It should probably be left as it is because it's describing two distinct and historically significant groupings that on first glance have a lot of overlap.
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If your ancestors were from Latin or South America, they were also from one or more of the countries or Native peoples of South America. Put the people in country categories (i.e.
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Can you provide a link to an appropriate article that explains the difference? It would really help support your argument that they aren't different names for the same place.
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Thailand has no specific ties to either variety of English, and individual organis/zations will usually arbitrarily choose either spelling. However, "organizations" (with a
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attention, although the focus on "gay people who happen to be evil in fiction" probably encompasses a lot of film/TV examples as well. Perhaps this is an area to look at in
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This is no need for it to be disambiguated. While it's true that there is a Thebes in Egypt (and the USA), there has never been a see of Thebes outside of Greece AFAIK.
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Duplicate categories and there is no pattern of naming for the parent category. I think "Medieval Ukrainian people" is less awkward than "People of medieval Ukraine".
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I do get to find and choose sources but I base my categorizations on existing WP category structure and article talk page discussions along with WP resources like
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Category editors do not get to find and choose to use sources from anywhere. Sources are found the WP articles underlying the categories. In the case, see
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can arise which means that there is no need for disambiguation. A note in the category scope page would be sufficient to mention the other Theban bishoprics.
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How could a "keep" solve the supposed issue with Phthiotic Thebes? Both are in Greece. Which gets to keep the name: Phthiotic Thebes or Seven-gated Thebes?
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spelling is not. I'm also not sure how Burma and Malaysia's status should have anything to do with our perception of English language usage in Thailand. --
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With few exceptions (e.g. when a topic has strong national ties or a term/spelling carries less ambiguity), there is no valid reason for such a change.
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Spoke too soon, as it appears that there is some renaming and page moving actively taking place. Wherever the dust settles on the parent article --
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or to a related WikiProject where more experienced editors can weigh in. It's through discussions here and elsewhere that we all can learn.
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Latin America is not the same as South America. Look at appropriate WP articles and categories with their appropriate references.
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What makes a tragic villain different from any other villain? Even if we knew, this category is probably overly specific
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Given that he is catted as a fictional president, VP and senator, does he really need to be in a fourth category?
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as is. Different categories, much different in geographic scope, and we do have separate category trees for
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I understand your first sentence but I don't follow you here, the part about the "categories in two pages".
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in case I had forgotten what it says. You, however, do not appear to have read it: it is about hypothetical
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This is a case of overcategorization of a fictional article. However these people clearly are not governors.
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that are not associated with the Olympic Games and that might well be the subject of lawsuits by the
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at odds with the rest of the tree. Are you suggesting that we overturn the previous CfD and rename
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This is the format ("X people of African descent") for all other South American countries (see
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use a mixture of S and Z. Since no particular reason is given for singling out this one,
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No conceptual problem with category but, until it can be populated, it should be deleted.
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Duplicate categories but I have no opinion on which one should be merged into the other.
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I assumed an Admin needed to do this...I don't know how the page histories are combined.
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and the thousands of other categories that identify ethnic origin for other countries?
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Overly specific, particularly as there's only one article in the cat. Suggest upmerge
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We have gone to the more clear names, because this could be Colombian people in Ghana.
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I'm not sure how I could better rephrase my rationale. What I said was that the
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offtopic here, but yeah, wondering whether RS truly discuss this as a group.--
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This tree isn't being singled out. I noted above that this is a follow-up to
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What Coptic see? Is therea wiki article about a Coptic see of Thebes?
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per nom. These doing two major things categories are a bad idea.
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The current subcategory can stand on its own without this. --
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and put the related artlicles in it? Is it a good solution?
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That's news to me. 2005:Category:Political organisations in Thailand 351:Category:Colombian people of African descent 2579:Category:American people of Mexican descent 2861:) and the categories in these two pages." 2830:) and the categories in these two pages. 1299:Category:Jamaican people of TaĆ­no descent 1295:Category:Jamaican people of Taino descent 1239:Category:American people of TaĆ­no descent 1235:Category:American people of Taino descent 3317:Please say what articles are related to 2063:British and American English, while the 1975:Category:Organizations based in Thailand 1971:Category:Organisations based in Thailand 1916:Category:Organisations based in Thailand 1731:, which presumably replaces this one. -- 1287:Category:Haitian people of TaĆ­no descent 1283:Category:Haitian people of Taino descent 1251:Category:British people of TaĆ­no descent 1247:Category:British people of Taino descent 920:seems to be a duplicate of the subject. 2198:Category:Organisations based in Bangkok 2194:Category:Organizations based in Bangkok 2190:Category:Organizations based in Bangkok 128:Category:Fictional American politicians 2824:Keep both as container categories only 1323:Category:Welsh people of TaĆ­no descent 1319:Category:Welsh people of Taino descent 1263:Category:Cuban people of TaĆ­no descent 1259:Category:Cuban people of Taino descent 3242:Leaning to Keep / Not a C2D Candidate 1188:C2A, keeping the old as redirects. ā€“ 7: 2726:; trivial race/ethnicity categories 1830:is a disambiguation page that lists 3321:(redirect now), but not related to 1040:Category:People of medieval Ukraine 18:Knowledge:Categories for discussion 1044:Category:Medieval Ukrainian people 509:Category:Bishops of Thebes, Greece 441:Category:Bishops of Thebes, Greece 28: 3169:, main article of this category. 3123:The result of the discussion was: 2581:should only be in Latin America, 2458:The result of the discussion was: 2269:The result of the discussion was: 2122:Category:Organizations by country 1944:The result of the discussion was: 1719:The result of the discussion was: 1402:The result of the discussion was: 1183:The result of the discussion was: 1004:The result of the discussion was: 840:The result of the discussion was: 632:Metropolis of Thebes and Livadeia 476:Metropolis of Thebes and Livadeia 469:The result of the discussion was: 311:The result of the discussion was: 88:The result of the discussion was: 3325:? 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Index

Knowledge:Categories for discussion
Log
November 19
November 21
talk page
deletion review
BrownHairedGirl
(talk)
contribs
22:30, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
Category:Fictional state lieutenant governors of the United States
Category:Fictional American politicians
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21:02, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Jerry Pepsi
talk
22:16, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
Category:Fictional state governors of the United States
Peterkingiron
talk
22:38, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
Jerry Pepsi
talk
01:23, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
RevelationDirect
talk
01:34, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
John Pack Lambert

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