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4414:- The category is definitely a notable and even a defining attribute in many cases. However, I have long felt that the very nature of the category makes it difficult to work as a category, and that a list might be the better approach. Categories work well when they are clear attributes that don't need a lot of explanation. This category is tricky on both the gender and the name question. The name part alone raises questions around pseudonyms, variants of one's own name, non-gendered names, people who used different names at different times. All of these are interesting and relevant points that could be the subject of scholarship, but they are all nuanced and sometimes tricky to explain -- so not a good fit as a category. Any choices we make to try to define the category will necessarily be arbitrary. And gender, while we typically think of it as an easy binary, is not actually all that easy, and folks who use non-gendered or transgendered names are proportionately more likely than others to not fit into the female/male binary. -- 3059:, without prejudice to re-creation if they are going to get some substantive content. At present (like the Spanish series above) they are merely dealing with the participation of Ireland in multi-national competitions, which is performance by performer categorisation (and thus illicit). I observe that some articles have an "in County Dublin" category, based on where a game was played, which also seems inappropriate. When we start getting articles on the domestic league and its clubs, this category series could come back, but not until then. WE do not usally allow a 20th/21st century split, as it is a surrogate for current/past, but I think it may be approipriate here, particularly as we are more likely to get articles on recent events. 1982:, possibly excluding those sicne 2009. I checked a sample of earlier categories and all the articles were actually about international competitions in which Spain had competed. That is strictly an inadmissible type of category, as it is actually performace (competition) by performer (Spain), but I do not want at this point to advocate tasking that to its logical conclusion of listifying and deleting everything. 4373:"there was a period" means that it does not apply to most of time (and I would question the claim that women ever nedded to pretend to be a man to get published in any setting, some setting yes, all, I would question that claim). However As I think is clear with Harper Lee, it is very hard to say that someone is trying to use a "male" name. 3896:. However my experience with the peudonyms categories is that people will insist on keepijng them, even though writing under a peudonym is very common. However the current name is just 1-too long, and 2-grouping things that are only somewhat alike. I also have major issues with the lead. To begin with, the first person in the category 506:. We do not allow these because they clutter things up. CAtegories are intneded as a navigation aid, but there will generally only be one broadcaster (or broadcast network) for each sporting series, so that we are liable to end off with a mass of minute categories. Yes, events do sometimes move channel, but does that matter? 4263:. I guess that looks like a male name, but it is actually her birth-last name, plus what the article descripbes as her "adopted surname". Rice was the surname of her aunt and uncle her raised her. It is possible that legally her name was Georgia Ann Craig Rice, in which case it is hard to see how that was a pseudonym at all. 4241:. Her birth name is Miram S. Zucker. However from the article it is unclear if this is really a pen name. I have known women who have gone by "Mickey". It is unclear, but Reichert might be her married name, and Mickey may well be a nickname she goes by with her family and friends. What next, will we say that 4159:โ€”it's too tempting for editors to stuff writers in here. J. K. Rowling is in the category for some reason not understood by me. Right from the outset and the publication of the first book it was known that she was a woman (and it's her real name). And as for putting Harriet Adams here, where are the rest of the 462:
that a person is a sports announcer is worth categorizing if they are notable for it (we should not categorize people who are not notable for that reason, even if done at a professional level, and definetely not if they did it as a part-time job at a college or high school), but there is no reason to
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was not included in this category. I mean, her name is actually Nelle Harper Lee, so she dropped her first name just as much as Mrs. Taylor and Mrs. McCullers (although I guess since Ms. Lee was born with both Harper and Lee it is a little different), and I have actually participated in discussions
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Based on the way this category works, if a women whose full name was Pat Logan Miller, wrote under the name Pat Logan, she probably would be put in the category. Even if Pat Logan was her actual birth name, as long as you could say that Pat Logan Miller was her official name when she published some
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only those instances where being left-handed is defining. (such as fiction dealing with the loss of a dominant hand, being the left, and discrimination because of that as the right hand remains and normally would be dominant; or where lefthandedness is treated as a sign of the devil, and persecution
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did not publish under a male pseudonym because of concerns about critical reception or being limited to publishing as a male. She did not even publish the Hardy Boys series under the name Franklin W. Dixon on the theory that attributing the works to a male author would appeal better to the target
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would be a legitimate category. There was a period when women needed to pretend to be men to get published. A head note will be needed to indicate that only those using a specifically male forename can be included. The use of initials, or a surname used as a forename should not be enough.
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While the year 2000 is a nice round figure, for many categories by year/season there are nearly as many articles for years in the previous decade (the 1990s) as for the 2000s and 2010s, and any upmerging here to โ€œyears in sportโ€ for the country (here Ireland) should be pre-1990 not
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I have to say I am not convinced that publishing a work under a true assestion of nationality counts as publishing it under a "pseudonym" at all, it is more like publishing totally anonymously. It is not like "an American" ever came to mean in anyone's mind the author of Child's
3082:, could the proposer say how many of these categories will be left rather than dribbling them out one country at a time. The countries are Argentina, Australia, England, Scotland, Wales (& Britain), Ireland, France, Italy, Japan, New Zealand, Romania, South Africa & Spain. 3750:, to ensure that no articles on video covers or their images end up here. (consider the Beatles' Butcher Album, or the Scorpions' Virgin Killer album, covers of which can qualify for separate articles just because of their own notability separate from the actual albums) -- 4039:, where I guess technically this is a pseudonym, but if it was just C. J. Cherry it would not be, so I am not sure this really counts. On the other hand, some authors have published under so many pseudonyms it is not really worth noting that some differ from their gender. 3862:
There's broad agreement here that the category cannot stand and that something needs to be done. There were various proposals of listifying, merging, purging, and all sorts of combinations of the three in various orders. For simplicity' sake, I will merge the contents to
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who was in this category I guess because technically her name was Richmal Crompton Lambourne, but she was using her full, actual first name in her writting. Her name might be "gender neutral" or even seem to be "male", but that is not a result of any pseudonym on her
4021:. What about people who actually have gender neutral names? Or what about women with names like Ryan or Adrian (I have known both), that are generally male? If a women named Adrian publishes a book under her actualy name would it qualify for this category? 3913:
in the category, although I am unconvinced that is even really gender-neutral, so I took it out. Gender-neutral is not male, so the two should be seperated. I am still thinking that a list would be an improvement, so that the reasons why could be spelled
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This type of information would be better presented in a list than a category. The sheer length of the title is an indication of this anyway. This type of concept demands actual text to discuss the described phenomenon, not just a context-less category.
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and all of its sub cats. I'm not convinced we need this as a separate cat. Listification of notable examples (with descriptions of *why*, which is the really interesting thing and which can't be captured in categories), but merge the rest to
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with Harper as a first name are all male, so it is generally the same as Carson McCullers being the one female in a list of seven-people, so I do not think we have any easy way to determine when the name is or is not "gender
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It is especially bad that some of these categories will have very high overlap. One person is in 7 if not all 8 of these, but in general MLB all-star game broadcasters will also be World Series broadcasters.
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Re upmerging to to the main country category or to 19th/20th century in that country, this is unnecessary as articles about international tours for a particular country will already be in subcategories of
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If P. D. James is a pseudonym, than what isn't? She is using what is clearly her name. I am going to remove her and anyone else who used their actual initials from the caegory. They would fit under
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seem to have some peculiar pride in their identity/status/whatever. But I would agree that this is not a good category. Maybe a nice article on "left-handedness in fiction" to start with .... --
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There is no reasonable prospect that these categories will be expanded in the near future, and this huge number of categories simply impedes navigation by providing a useless extra layer.
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There is no reasonable prospect that these categories will be expanded in the near future, and this huge number of categories simply impedes navigation by providing a useless extra layer.
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was in this category. The problem was her birth name was Katherine Kressmann and Taylor was her married name. This is not a pseudonym, it is just a shortened form of her name.
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really I would like to listify this. It is implying similar concerns when in fact people doing this at present would have very different reasons to do so than did
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where people expressed the view that they were at least unsure of Lee's gender. For what it is worth the other 5-notable real people in the list under
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Child's first novel, the historical romance Hobomok: A Tale of Early Times, was published anonymously under the gender-neutral pseudonym "an American."
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but it obviously needs work, and should be refined to not be comprehensive in scope, as such a list might be quite long. Thoughts welcome! --
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of lefties (yes I have read fiction based on these premises); though currently there may only be 1 or 2 from the current category) --
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would be articles about video covers, yes? So the reverse merger, or the one proposed by the IP above, would seem more apposite.
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audience, she did so because her father had already established using a male author name for the works. Then we get
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not notable, and subjective. Is "Pat" gender-neutral? On Saturday Night Live it is on March 17 the hella it is...
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category or categories, then delete. As noted, this will have to be done manually, so these will be listed at
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are both acceptable outcomes to me. What I am clear of is the category as is is too broad and unwidely.
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categories, then delete. As noted, this will have to be done manually, so these will be listed at
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Very well, I will add them in. I assume Ashbeckjonathan's !vote will stand for all as well.
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It's pretty clear this is not a defining characteristic for any of these characters.
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as a left handed person I think this is clearly categorization by a trivial trait.
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Is this so that the category can include Android games featured in the bundles?
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Please don't delete them. Ashbeckjonathan 13:00, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
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Category:NHL All-Star Game broadcasters
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Category:Stanley Cup Finals broadcasters
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Category:National Basketball Association Finals broadcasters
Category:NBA All-Star Game broadcasters

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