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values, but not for the low-radiation definition. The CNET article doesn't give a "low-radiation" definition either, it's just an arbitrary number of phones that rated the lowest as of 6 months ago. In the absence of reliable criteria to separate low-radiation smartphones from other smartphones, this
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We can objectively list phones in order of lowest radiation to highest radiation, but we cannot objectively determine where on that list a phone should be considered low-radiation since the concept of "low-radiation" is not clearly defined in any reliable sources. Would we include the lowest 10
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criteria is FCC or CENELEC standards, which are used to certify every phone sold in the US and EU respectively, such that this category becomes simply "smartphones" and would include every mobile device sold, and that is redundant and runs afoul of
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category is synthesis. As for forum shopping, I have nominated the category and several redirects for discussion through the separate processes as it was appropriate to do so, though my concern is the same. If that's forum shopping then you can
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per nominator. There's no reliable way to meaningfully judge whether any particular smartphone is "low radiation". You could make a category for phones that advertise themselves as low radiation, but I see no reason to have that category
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I hope you don't mind I reformatted your comment, I missed part of it the first time I glanced at it and thought it would be helpful to other readers to make it line up. As I said in the AfD, I agree that the FCC is reliable for the
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Mostly concerned with modern-day nationality identities at first glance, while ethnicity side deals with historical/cultural/racial/etc/ factors not limited to geo-politics. Example:
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Keep. This feels like forum shopping. Ivan, I'm disappointed that you re-raise the idea that we don't have a RS, as the FCC was provided as an RS for the SAR values, and
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neutral on rename. Any attempt to distinguish ethnicity and nationality in fictional subjects is liable to raise major POV issues. My preference is to
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into separate sub-cats for nationality and ethnicity. They are different concepts and multi-subject categories should be avoided.
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Proper grammar would be "hosted by Spain" or "held in Spain", though the latter could potentially mean something different.
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there is no reliable criteria for inclusion in this category. The "low-radiation" definition used to determine inclusion is
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was provided by Enric Naval as a list of the 20 lowest radiation cellphones. The idea seems discredited to me. No? --
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If a list isn't viable, neither is a category. It also seems to me that this is essentially a product review category.
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phones, would we include the lowest 30 phones? Any decision would ultimately by arbitrary and
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by nom: a category of phones that advertise themselves as low-radiation would be inherently
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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories.
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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories.
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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories.
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/List of low-radiation smartphones
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is a nationality, which is further overlap/diffused by
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which includes both chemical and non-chemical agents.
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weak consenus to rename, but no consensus on splitting
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion
Log
December 30
January 1
talk page
deletion review
BrownHairedGirl
(talk)
contribs
02:32, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Category:Low-radiation smartphones
edit
talk
history
links
watch
logs
Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/List of low-radiation smartphones
not backed up by any reliable sources
WP:NOTDIR
Ivanvector
talk
18:34, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
AioftheStorm
talk
23:07, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
spammy
Ivanvector
talk
15:27, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

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