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628:-- This is a controversial topic, which is a matter of interpretation. There are certainly historical cases where men expressed deep love for other men, but in no case is there clear evidence that this involved a sexual (i.e. homosexual) relationship, as opposed to platonic love (a very close friendship). Certain historians have certainly expressed their POV that certain saints in expressing love were homosexual. Being so controversial, I do not think we can allow a category, as the inclusion criteria involve the exercise of POV by the editor. On the other hand, there is scope in a list article to set out the case for and against. 2448:, we simply don't speak of the seat of a city at all since no city ever has a "seat" outside of itself. But the seat of a government is the entire "capital" city in which the government buildings are located, not just the government buildings themselves. And yes, that does mean "town hall" is also the wrong target for the redirect. There may in fact be a need to find another compromise term here to accommodate Laurel Lodged's concerns, but even if the distinction between a "seat" and a "town/city hall" works differently in British or Irish English than it is in North American English, that conflict itself 2170:, we simply don't speak of the seat of a city at all since no city ever has a "seat" outside of itself. But the seat of a government is the entire "capital" city in which the government buildings are located, not just the government buildings themselves. And yes, that does mean "town hall" is also the wrong target for the redirect. There may in fact be a need to find another compromise term here to accommodate Laurel Lodged's concerns, but even if the distinction between a "seat" and a "town/city hall" works differently in British or Irish English than it is in North American English, that conflict itself 568:, and is to be expected in a field like history, his conclusions are disputed by other historians sometimes. I further know that definitely determining the sexuality of someone who lived 800 years ago, or 1,600 years ago, is likely going to be inconclusive according to secondary RS, and especially Christian saints which will have no shortage of scholars disputing it. And my intention was never as sneaky as it may seem. I wanted to see if my decategorizations held first before taking it to CfD, because my understanding was that it was best to remove improperly categorized articles 1596:-- Victorian era is certainly excessively Anglo-centric. However, the reign of Victoria (1837-1901) saw a major change in naval architecture from wooden ship to ironclads and then iron (or steel) ships. This means that there is a genuine category series here. Neither end-date is meaningful in a wider (non-British) context. I would suggest that we substitute a category for c.1860-1914, coving the period from the rise of the ironclad to WWI, or possibly until c.1906 when there was an arms race between UK and Germany starting with 2020:, be a container, with individual articles distributed to the appropriate country article. It may be appropriate to reverse merge and to rename the national categories to the form of the present article. However, this may need to be done selectively according to local usage. In England the Town Hall or City Hall is often a venue for musical and other performances, with local government being conducted from the Council House. Birmingham Town Hall is a venue, where the 820: 2191:-- The last comment makes it clear that this involves an ENGVAR issue. In some English cities and towns, the Town/City Hall is a venue. The council may operate from the Council House (but 'a council house' is domestic housing provided by councils, originally for the working class). I think we have to have a split in the tree according to local usage. I would suggest the parent should be 543: 1655:
I could live with that, but there would need to be a headnote explaining its scope: iron clads were timber ships with iron plates. With the rise of mild steel (from Bessemer and Open heath processes) steel replaced wrought iron. The headnote would thus have to say, "This category includes ironclad
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For a dead person, there must be a verified consensus of reliable published sources that the description is appropriate....historically, however, LGBT people did not always come out in the way that they commonly do today, so a person's own self-identification may, in some cases, be impossible to
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or not, and whether the articles that were formerly here should be readded — we can pull an old dump to see what used to be here, and repopulate the category, if necessary. People cannot make categories they dislike go away just by emptying them out arbitrarily — there needs to be a
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without prejudice for restoration should qualified articles turn up; "provisional" because if 2 or more do during the discussion, I will change to keep. I am the person who emptied the category, which merely had 2 articles anyway, and I don't appreciate the insinuations from
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did not exist before 1871. Vessels in service before then will need to be categorised according to the relevant country (new cats may need to be created to account for this). For vessels belonging to the Hanseatic League cities, there is already a category that covers them.
208:-- The classical periods of different civilisations were at different periods. The normal division is ancient/medieval/modern, though the precise boundaries between these vary. I have not looked at the fictional categories, but we need to ensure that nothing is orphaned. 1780:
The revised nomination makes sense since, while the innovations of the British Navy may have been influential, this is not defining for non-British realms. I'm less certain on the Canadian and Australian categories since she was their monarch, so I'll defer to others.
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the discussion (which I am certainly questioning now). However, somehow another editor found it and put it up for CSD instead. If we do have well-sourced persons to put in the category, or the ones I removed truly do belong, by all means let's keep it.
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For example, while some sources have claimed that William Shakespeare was gay or bisexual, there is not a sufficient consensus among scholars to support categorizing him as such—but no such doubt exists about the sexuality of Oscar Wilde or Radclyffe
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ships and those made of steel". I do not think it is wise in a category scheme such as this (at least not initially) to split out those that were only ironclad and those made of steel rather than iron, though this might eventually be desirable.
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Because they shared the same monarch, and (to my understanding) the British had a strong habit of giving their old ships to their domains, meaning the technological upgrades of the British would be directly handed to them at various points.
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There was some edit warring going on over the subject's sexuality, and looking into it, I saw that there wasn't a clear consensus among the sources in the article. That is why I removed the category and changed the text to say,
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Seat of government is archaic terminology rarely used in other category trees in WP. And higher level categories should be a summary name of the lower categories, which in in this instance there is no reason to change.
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instead of the "seat", but we use the word "seat" in a county context because it would be weird to speak of the "capital" of a county — and, in turn, because each city that has a municipal government is
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instead of the "seat", but we use the word "seat" in a county context because it would be weird to speak of the "capital" of a county — and, in turn, because each city that has a municipal government is
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Not all city halls function as seats of local government; Some are museums. "Town hall" is US-centric. "Seats of local government" exactly describes what is is, not what it may have been at one time.
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This was a compromise and admittedly I did not spend a very long time investigating; however, the text in the article following that statement also seems to show it to be disputed. As for
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where used is likely nearly every country and where invented (if you can define that when so much is done with international cooperation) are not defining per above discussion.
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that I did so for nefarious reasons. Bearcat, I've seen you yourself nominate for AfD plenty of LGBT related articles that failed GNG, so you of all people should know better.
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Most mobile applications can be used by anyone in the world, regardless of where the company is located. Thus, categorizing by parent company's origin is a
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for its emptying. Accordingly, since it's not clear that proper process was followed here, I'm listing it for discussion about whether the category is
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Some historians argue that Aelred was homosexual, drawing upon his work, private letters, and Vita by Walter Daniel (a contemporary at Rievaulx Abbey)
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It makes more sense to categorise the companies which produce them by country. When I use apps I neither know nor care about the country of origin.
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per nom; we have numerous articles where the subject is open to wide and differing usages - that doesn't mean that we may categorize on them.
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is a 'City Hall' but not a seat of government, for instance. I expect there are seats of local government which are not town or city halls.)
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seem to include any evidence of removing this category from any articles themselves, so they should not be rapped on the nose for this — but
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For the 2 articles, both of them are individuals who lived centuries ago. (If it had more than two before this, I do not know of them.)
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characteristic of the shows per se, and with approximately 180 countries in the world, a fully scaled out scheme would comprise around
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The articles in the top categories of the Victoria-era ships tree are also in another subcategory of the ships tree of that country.
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categories — which is not a useful or productive aid to navigating the encyclopedia at all. To be fair, the different versions of
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The article is valid, as it explains a notable term. But that does not necessarily imply that we should use it in categories.
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All subcategories here are "City and town halls in Fooland". See also related CfD for parent category I will post in a sec.
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of whether the category is warranted or not. Note that it appears that the person who tagged this for speedy deletion was
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a broad consensus of academic and/or biographical scholarship about the topic is sufficient to describe a person as LGBT.
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contexts, because the seat of a state or provincial or federal government is more idiomatically referred to as the
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was built. The main council offices are in Birmingham Council House, in part of a building that also houses
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and others have been controversial - and not recognized by other churches. Thus we have few biographies in
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we go this way (though I am not too certain if that is the right way) then it should become a rename to
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are named 'City and town halls in Fooland', see the rename proposal for that category below this one.
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Very likely true with modern globalization, but a few thousand years ago it may well have mattered.
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per above. Who says it's archaic? It may be old but it's not archaic. Pope is old but still in use.
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which is currently the only page listed, and I don't personally know of any other shows to include.
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idea that we need a comprehensive scheme of " television series based on television series" for
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verify by the same standards that would be applicable to a contemporary BLP. For such a person,
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I agree that Aelred, Sergius and Bacchus shouldn't be categorised as LGBT saints. How about
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became emptied — and I have been unable to find any evidence of a discussion to establish a
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how exactly do you propose to merge? That question applies also to the nomination below.
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is defining, but their nationality is usually trivial with regards to the invention.
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considers Francisco Franco a saint but we do not categorise him as such. Cheers,
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one church's saint is another's sinner. Recent Roman Catholic canonizations of
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and have even cited him on Knowledge, I know that, as his article says, as
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that it needed to disappear, and we may need the dump to figure out who.
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in 2010. So there is an alternative case for renaming all the subcats. (
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Category:Post-classical history by country
Category:Post-classical history by continent‎
Category:Post-classical history of Asia‎
Category:Post-classical history of Europe‎
Category:Post-classical Europe‎
Category:Fictional Asian post-classical people
Category:Fictional medieval people
Category:Fictional European post-classical people
Category:Fictional medieval people
Marcocapelle
talk
22:23, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Peterkingiron
talk
16:09, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
Post-classical history
world history
Dimadick
talk
13:51, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
Marcocapelle

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