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nuances here), it clearly evolved, and there's a clear continuity, both through the ruling dynasty and the core territory, which is, unambiguously, the predecessor of the modern state. In addition to this, reliable sources certainly refer to it as "Austria" during this period, whether it be a duchy, margraviate, ... , so there's a clear COMMONNAME argument here. A subcategory of the
European rulers one is certainly viable, and if it exists, and I along with others contend that this is perfectly acceptable, then "Austria" is the name it should be at. Obviously, if you disagree, there's no point continuing to talk past each other and we're better off leaving others to make up their own mind on this. Cheers,
1925:, I realize I should have voted earlier on, for more clarity. Austria expanded from a moderate-sized archduchy to a huge empire and shrunk back to the current republic, but there was definitely continuity. The last archduke promoted himself to emperor, and the Republic of Austria was the legal successor of the Austrian Empire. Vienna was the capital of Austria for most of its history. The nomination as it stands is flawed anyway because if not kept it should be a merge to parent categories instead of a straight deletion (but it does not look like there is going to be enough support for merging either). After this discussion closes I am planning to nominate the categories for renaming to
3249:. Elsewhere in the world, its participants are called "athletes." USA gets their Olympic news processed, so we see it called Track and Field on USA based media. We also see measurements in imperial (feet and inches) because unlike the rest of the world, Americans don't understand metric . . . still. Who is out of step with the rest of the world? The good old USA. Knowledge is supposed to provide accurate information, rather than take a jingoistic approach to our reporting. And hey, did you notice? There are some events USA doesn't win.
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per SFB. Or at least, if we need to rename it, it would be more correct "Category:Athletics competitors at the (Year) Summer
Olympics" as it is already on Commons. But it is a complex discourse that should concern many other categories and that perhaps one day we will. One day a solution will have to
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Survey the hundreds of biographies tagged with these categories and you will see that a majority of them do not. Is this because they're overwhelmingly "wholly incompetent" or because it's non-defining and trivial? If no sources comment on it (and they usually do not), then what place does it have in
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rather than trying to slap them with each other, the artistic swimmers, and the water polo players in some kind of aquatics competitors category. Cycling could easily be treated more like aquatics than, say, wrestling (where the two disciplines are comparatively quite similar). (Of course, Athletics
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As far as I can see, marathoners and racewalkers are also included in the existing category, so at best your argument is one to split out the marathoners and the racewalkers from the existing category. That second sentence is a non sequitur, and I can't understand its relevance, because the proposed
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Austria in this regard is not much different from other medieval entities. The King of
England was, for a while (after the Norman Conquest), also Duke of Normandy etc., and France didn't quite have it's modern shape either. Austria not only existed (the HRE is too complex an entity to get into fine
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Modern
Austria (the country as we know it) didn't exist, correct, but that's irrelevant. Countries changed/evolved/lost or gained status throughout the centuries before settling in their modern form. The fact is, "Austria" is the name commonly used to refer to this entity, ruled throughout much of
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There are enough people who are indeed notable at least partly if not solely because they were centenarians (more commonly the ones that are/were extremely long-lived/record holders) that this category is indeed a valid one. The solution to the dubious overcategorisation elsewhere is to take the
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The age to which one lives is a non-defining characteristic. For the overwhelming majority of people who live to 100 years old, it is completely trivial to what makes them notable. Surveying those belonging to this category, it is quite uncommon for them to be called a centenarian at all. For
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have "cities and towns" categories for numerous countries (Andorra, Norway, Austria, Azerbaijan, Croatia, Estonia, Denmark, Ethiopia, Finland, Greece, Italy, and Russia, to name just some of them), so the initial proposal is somewhat disingenuous. We don't need both this and the two separate
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for grouping the noms - very useful. I had thought of making a group, but since each involved a separate state (margraviate / duchy / archduchy), I thought it best to do them singly. Regarding your rationale above ("Modern
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Austria is is not exactly similar to Belgium, because there was no Belgium in the 15th century, while there was an Austria in the 15th century which was the 'core' of what we nowadays call Austria. The situation in Austria was rather similar to 16th-century Russia, where
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to prevent info loss on deletion. Note also, despite the misleading article title, there were no rulers of
Austria in the 12th century. The Margraviate (& Duchy) included lots of places not in the modern state of Austria and excluded lots of places that are in the modern state.
2682:"Those categories exist since 2004"? That's an undisguised appeal to tradition. "Athletes", especially but not solely in the context of the Olympics Games, refers to all competitors, and I don't see justification in your comment for the inconsistency with all the other categories.
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if people feel that better resolves the ambiguity because that matches the current parent category. I oppose splitting the
Olympic track and field athletes from the Olympic marathon/racewalkers because the rest of the Olympic category structure is done on a sport basis (compare
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irrelevant."), I must disagree with it; far from being irrelevant, it cuts to the very heart of the nominations; since, by your own admission, no such state existed at time, why should categories purporting to represent a non-existant state be permitted? Take for example
1840:-- There has continuously an entity called Austria from 978 until today. Its extent may have varied, but it existed. In view of the comparative lack of central authority in Holy Roman Empire, it is wholly appropriate to have categories for the larger German states.
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Your opening sentence is what's inaccurate, and your second sentence supports opposing. And nobody is saying that, not only is "Ice hockey player" the doer in ice hockey, but ice hockey and hockey are separate sports, your analogy is completely incomparable.
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The reason for this naming is to group together all the competitors in the Olympic athletics program, while clarifying to North Americans that "Athletes" does not refer to sportspeople in general but track and field athletes. I would support a rename to
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That discussion resulted in no consensus. How can you claim that something which is not even mentioned in most articles is a defining characteristic? Left-handedness and blonde hair are arguably more defining than the age to which one lives in most
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That is not how I envisaged it. I meant to upmerge dukes and counts categories, I have no intention to remove the categories altogether. After upmerging there will be a subcat for monarchs plus articles (not subcategorized) about dukes and counts.
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The idea that countries "settle in their modern form" is ahistorical. Categories which are deeply entwined with political entities - like rulers - should have titles linked to the relevent political entity as it existed when they ruled
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is a conceptually different category from what that one was originally doing (i.e. all competitors in athletics, including non-track varieties). A new parent category for track and field athletes was created at
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It is incorrect to say that there has been "an entity called Austria"; it is more accurate to say that there have been several entitles with "Austria" in their titles, each of which has differed from the other.
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What you're doing is attacking a strawman, and an inaccurate one at that. The one sport that doesn't have a "Doers of sport at the Olympics" is this one. It should maybe be separated into sub-categories, ex.
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You'll excuse the minor formatting fix (and the me avoiding having to copy my comment 7 times). This really should have been a batch nomination.
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3099:Category:Road cyclists at the 2020 Summer Olympics
2997:Category:Competitors at the (Year) Summer Olympics
2418:Category with just one entry and one subcategory.
234:so please read that discussion before commenting.
2931:2011 March 1#Category:Athletics (track and field)
2904:, this nomination goes all the way back to 1896.
1667:: must we therefore create a new category called
1659:: must we therefore create a new category called
1643:: must we therefore create a new category called
1627:: must we therefore create a new category called
2973:Category:Competitors in athletics by competition
2641:Category:Competitors at the 2020 Summer Olympics
1894:Category:15th-century rulers of the Netherlands
1645:Category:15th-century rulers of the Netherlands
3130:Category:Swimmers at the 2020 Summer Olympics
3091:Category:Cyclists at the 2020 Summer Olympics
2975:. A relevant speedy nomination here would be
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1478:all members have been individually added to
1346:all members have been individually added to
1191:all members have been individually added to
3134:Category:Divers at the 2020 Summer Olympics
404:. This is a defining characteristic. --~@~~
1931:Category:18th-century archdukes of Austria
1927:Category:10th-century margraves of Austria
1902:Category:15th-century rulers of Luxembourg
1669:Category:15th-century rulers of Luxembourg
371:Longevity adds to a subject's notability.
3177:an article about sportspeople in general
2494:Category:Wikipedians by Knowledge status
2422:, is the complaint department really on
775:Category:15th-century monarchs in Europe
642:Category:15th-century monarchs in Europe
250:2020 June 18#Most centenarian categories
2643:... (and so on for the other Olympics)
2249:) which are better defined categories.
1992:Category:17th-century rulers of Austria
1988:Category:16th-century rulers of Austria
1890:Category:15th-century rulers of Belgium
1629:Category:15th-century rulers of Belgium
1613:Category:15th-century rulers of Austria
1381:Category:10th-century rulers of Austria
1369:Category:10th-century rulers of Austria
1249:Category:11th-century rulers of Austria
1237:Category:11th-century rulers of Austria
1086:Category:12th-century rulers of Austria
1074:Category:12th-century rulers of Austria
1002:. All members are already listified in
957:Category:13th-century rulers of Austria
945:Category:13th-century rulers of Austria
894:. All members are already listified in
849:Category:14th-century rulers of Austria
837:Category:14th-century rulers of Austria
761:. All members are already listified in
716:Category:15th-century rulers of Austria
704:Category:15th-century rulers of Austria
632:. All members are already listified in
587:Category:16th-century rulers of Austria
575:Category:16th-century rulers of Austria
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3086:Category:Olympic athletics competitors
2977:Category:Olympic athletics competitors
2381:Category:Shreveport Pirates (baseball)
2323:Category:Shreveport Pirates (baseball)
2282:Category:Populated places in Sri Lanka
2130:Category:Cities and towns in Sri Lanka
2071:Category:Cities and towns in Sri Lanka
1994:, which are the nominated categories.
1898:Category:15th-century rulers of France
1661:Category:15th-century rulers of France
1480:Category:10th-century rulers in Europe
1455:Category:10th-century rulers in Europe
1348:Category:11th-century rulers in Europe
1323:Category:11th-century rulers in Europe
1193:Category:12th-century rulers in Europe
1168:Category:12th-century rulers in Europe
1012:Category:13th-century rulers in Europe
904:Category:14th-century rulers in Europe
771:Category:15th-century rulers in Europe
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777:so there is no loss of information.
667:from the foundation in 976 to 1918.
644:so there is no loss of information.
282:Category:Centenarians by nationality
2960:Category:Athletes (track and field)
2923:Category:Athletes (track and field)
547:. Sadly there are now unmerged. --
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2969:Category:Competitors in athletics
2964:Category:Track and field athletes
2927:Category:Track and field athletes
2541:The result of the discussion was:
2351:The result of the discussion was:
2099:The result of the discussion was:
494:The result of the discussion was:
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1886:Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor
1609:Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor
230:context, this discussion began
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2631:(as above for every other one)
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3009:Category:Modern penthathletes
2962:was renamed, but effectively
2834:(instead of the more natural
1984:Rudolf II, Holy Roman Emperor
1963:Category:Archdukes of Austria
1904:which is quite preposterous.
1428:Category:Margraves of Austria
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1137:Category:Margraves of Austria
767:Category:Archdukes of Austria
638:Category:Archdukes of Austria
512:09:55, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
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155:Category:Women centenarians
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2708:Category:Athletics by type
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1657:Count Palatine of Burgundy
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1131:and later elevated to the
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1024:19:05, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
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397:07:06, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
381:03:38, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
364:03:20, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
334:02:52, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
319:per previous discussions.
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239:20:08, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
3043:de:Kategorie:Leichtathlet
3005:Category:Javelin throwers
3001:Category:Marathon runners
1611:, he is categorised as a
1451:List of rulers of Austria
1319:List of rulers of Austria
1164:List of rulers of Austria
1141:Category:Dukes of Austria
1035:List of rulers of Austria
1008:Category:Dukes of Austria
1004:List of rulers of Austria
927:List of rulers of Austria
900:Category:Dukes of Austria
896:List of rulers of Austria
798:List of rulers of Austria
763:List of rulers of Austria
665:List of rulers of Austria
634:List of rulers of Austria
192:Category:Men centenarians
3311:Please do not modify it.
3159:Category:Track and field
2704:Category:Track and field
2523:Please do not modify it.
2476:Please do not modify it.
2333:Please do not modify it.
2305:Please do not modify it.
2081:Please do not modify it.
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476:Please do not modify it.
448:Please do not modify it.
70:Please do not modify it.
3153:This is all nonsense.
348:deletion is not cleanup
346:, and remove it, since
2637:Nominator's rationale:
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2195:categories though, so
2165:Nominator's rationale:
1663:? Maximilian was also
1647:? Maximilian was also
1631:? Maximilian was also
1615:. Yet he was also the
1420:Margraviate of Austria
1416:Nominator's rationale:
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227:Nominator's rationale:
2448:per nom, not needed.
2104:(or merge if needed)
118:Category:Centenarians
60:Category:Centenarians
2706:is a subcategory of
755:Archduchy of Austria
626:Archduchy of Austria
410:per all the above.
388:per all the above.
299:our encyclopedia?--
3214:sport of athletics
3039:sport of athletics
2800:Cycling athletes.
2664:, notably because
1653:Count of Charolais
3292:John Pack Lambert
3093:for example, not
2796:Boxing athletes.
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1665:Duke of Luxemburg
1625:Margrave of Namur
1510:John Pack Lambert
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