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66: 1407:. Why are we singling out plazas when there are many words used in different languages? "Square" is a generic term in English for any formally laid-out urban open space, whatever it is actually called (and most of them are not square). Even in Spanish-speaking countries they are not all called plazas. -- 1155:. Why are we singling out plazas when there are many words used in different languages? "Square" is a generic term in English for any formally laid-out urban open space, whatever it is actually called (and most of them are not square). Even in Spanish-speaking countries they are not all called plazas. -- 903:. Why are we singling out plazas when there are many words used in different languages? "Square" is a generic term in English for any formally laid-out urban open space, whatever it is actually called (and most of them are not square). Even in Spanish-speaking countries they are not all called plazas. -- 658:. Why are we singling out plazas when there are many words used in different languages? "Square" is a generic term in English for any formally laid-out urban open space, whatever it is actually called (and most of them are not square). Even in Spanish-speaking countries they are not all called plazas. -- 301:. Why are we singling out plazas when there are many words used in different languages? "Square" is a generic term in English for any formally laid-out urban open space, whatever it is actually called (and most of them are not square). Even in Spanish-speaking countries they are not all called plazas. -- 1587:
This category has been nominated for deletion for almost two weeks now. I feel like we should have reached a consensus by now. I did not know this was going to be an issue or I never would have made(maid) the category. I say delete it until Band-Maid has enough pages to justify having this category.
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While the current name may be consistent with its main article name, the contents of the category contains no such consistency as all varieties of square / plaza / piazza / civic space / urban space etc is on display. Perhaps the real problem lies with the article name. But that's a discussion for a
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to single out plazas. The whole point is to give it a more encyclopedic feel and for it to be less Anglo-centric. It acknowledges that each of the two terms is valid and common in their respective locations. Why use "squares in South America when they're called plazas? The category needs to embrace
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Equally, why use squares in Germany when they're called Plätze? Why use the term in France when they're called Places? I could go on and on. So, I ask again, why are we singling out plazas? Why is Spanish being given special treatment? Better to just use the generic
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having both "square" and "plaza" in the category title permits widespread local usage. Otherwise all "plazas" would have to be shoehorned into squares.
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Series of misnamed, single-user categories covering topics that are, in most cases, of questionable collaborative value. A merge of the first to
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per key article - the subcategories cater for local usages, but given their scope they could possibly also be changed to "Squares".
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Square should indeed be changed to Town square per the article and category. That said, there are some categories, such as
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the proposal better caters for local usage seeing as the proposed name contains two of the most popular variants.
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That's fine for the "by country" and "by continent" categories, but local usage in New Zealand is for "square".
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This is the English Wiki. No need for other languages. Plaza is a common term in English; the others are not.
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per Oculi and per local usage - if anything, it's the non-uniform sub-subcategory which should be changed to
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as well is not necessary since the user is already in that category. A merge of the last category to the
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and convention is to follow down from the article (rather than from bizarrely named subcat schemes).
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and the two subcategories are already interlinked to aid in navigation between the two.
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More inclusive. Each of its 3 sub-categories is entitled "Squares and plazas by ...".
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However, "square" is the standard term, so there is no need for any other. --
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Are you proposing an alternative name above? If so, what exactly?
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per above rationale. Each should be 'Town squares' per
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion
Log
August 12
August 14
Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion/Log/2021 August 28#Category:Sports in Norwalk, Connecticut
talk page
deletion review
non-admin closure
Marcocapelle
talk
21:07, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
Category:Squares in Africa
Category:Squares and plazas in Africa
Category:Squares in Asia
Category:Squares and plazas in Asia
Category:Squares in Europe
Category:Squares and plazas in Europe
Category:Squares in North America
Category:Squares and plazas in North America
Category:Squares in Oceania
Category:Squares and plazas in Oceania
Category:Squares and plazas by continent
Laurel Lodged
talk
16:40, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Plazas in South America
Laurel Lodged
talk
16:46, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Town square

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