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Fooian culture also covers expatriates, and is much broader in general, because not linked to a particular country, but to a culture as a whole; care to elaborate why you are advocating narrower scope? Logically culture of Foo should be a subcategory of Fooian culture, not replacing it.
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is a French literary award for an author's first novel. The award might be initially defining for these young authors but, by the time they are notable enough for a Knowledge (XXG) article, this award is usually mentioned in passing with other honours. This is one of
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Culture of foo is much better category name, as it is much broader. For example, Hungarian culture includes the culture of Hungary, but also, for example, the culture of Hungarians in Romania or in the USA. Besides, the borders are changing.
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They are the same. They have always been the same. Both the main articles and the connected categories have always included expatriates, and the spreading or influence of the culture of Fooland abroad.
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convention allows us to simply use the noun of the country or region in question and not having to memorise or look up the adjectives of all possibly categorisable regions in the world (
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I've posted invitations to participate in this CfR to WikiProject Countries and WikiProject Culture. I don't think it will be necessary to request permission from everyone at, say,
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I really think that we should dicuss it case by case, possibly with involvement of Wikiprojects, unlike you I don't consider myself expert on every culture on earth.
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was created as a redirect to it (far more common). Around the same time, subcategories of countries were created about that country's culture. E.g.
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since 2004 and the scope of the main article and adjoining category have remained unchanged for the past 19 years. But if you think so, go ahead.
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is not located inside Belarus. This is a nice example of the culture of Belarus being spread abroad, and that's okay.
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this nomination - I think this is an excellent nomination and I would dare to nominate few additional cats:
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Fooland" and therefore opposed it because I thought it would exclude expatriates. But in hindsight "Culture
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is the best example of that, afaik state of Azerbaijan isn't the main center of Azerbaijani culture.
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And this pattern holds true for almost all these articles and their redirects in the 2000s. Cheers,
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by the same user. Either this page did not yet exist (more likely), or it was the original title of
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in ancient Greece accompanied its literary development. Greek learning had a profound influence on
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today), but they were moved to avoid confusion with the language of the same name. In other cases,
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between 1517 and 1525, making it the first book printed in Belarus or anywhere in Eastern Europe.
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was added. From the very beginning, this category has been about the culture of the country.
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was added. From the very beginning, this category has been about the culture of the country.
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was added. From the very beginning, this category has been about the culture of the country.
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I might add the observation that since the early days of English Knowledge (XXG), roughly
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There are clear unbroken lines of influence from early Greek philosophers, through
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The late additions by Santasa99 will have to be brought to a new nomination.
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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories.
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There has never been the suggestion that just because the article is named
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but you seems to be suggesting into should reviewed case by case here.
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But we are debating the scope of categories, not articles, aren't we?
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and such? Surely not. It would be grammatically correct, but fail
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Culture of foo is much better category name, as it is much broader
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Pinging participants from previous discussion for this follow-up:
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I am no longer opposing this. A while back I read it as "Culture
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translated the Bible into Belarusian. It was published in
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Oppose, foonian culture and culture of foo isn't the same.
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The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion.
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Similarly, there is no need to be worried that whatever
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Further talks resulted in the decision to move to full.
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As said, I no longer think that it narrows the scope.
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for lacking any discernible collaborative function.
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Nobody is saying we can't mention that just because
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Category:Abkhazian culture
Category:Culture of Abkhazia
Culture of Abkhazia
Category:Albanian culture‎
Category:Culture of Albania
Culture of Albania
Category:Andorran culture
Category:Culture of Andorra
Culture of Andorra
Category:Armenian culture
Category:Culture of Armenia
Culture of Armenia
Category:Austrian culture
Category:Culture of Austria
Culture of Austria
Category:Azerbaijani culture
Category:Culture of Azerbaijan
Culture of Azerbaijan

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