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42: 3110:), by an expert in some of the languages in question (namely N. and E. Khanty and Nenets), an account of how a an influential textbook publishing house (Education Ltd.) created the curved-tail glyphs as in-house variants of these letters for their primers, primary-grade textbooks and other materials when publishing in the govt-assigned alphabet. This is part of a series of discussions involving multiple linguists working on these languages. We also have recent govt publications, in Nivkh, using the original ticked (e.g. 3487:
should list the two alphabets side by side. We would need to use SVG's for Ӻ, because there is no Unicode support for it in the second alphabet. Perhaps we could merge the cells of the alphabet table where the letters are identical, assuming the same sorting order. Since we would then have competing RS's about the nature of the distinction, we should note the disagreement. We should still choose one alphabet for the examples.
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alphabet itself. UNICODE has no competence to change or interpret either the composition of existing alphabets or the current orthographies. The UNICODE consortium is based on the existing orthographies of specific languages. Specific alphabets and orthographies of languages ​​in Russia are established and interpreted by the Russian government (or regional ones within their competence).
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reflect the RS that these are allographs, note that the variants were invented by a specific influential textbook publishing company, and note that both variants are found in official documents. Both variants should be listed in the alphabet charts, though for conciseness we should choose one for the examples.
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have a separate codification in Unicode, and were not originally "variations" of each other. It seems that no spelling reference book says that the letters in question can be variations of each other. This is an assumption that arose from who knows what. Perhaps this is the reason why the old version
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The purpose of content dispute resolution is to improve the article, so I will ask a question that I usually ask at the beginning of moderated discussion. Please state concisely what you want to change in the article that the other editor does not want to change, or what you want to leave alone that
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A previous dispute with a previous IP user resulted in that IP user going silent. (There are two IP users technically, but every indication is that they are the same person.) I dealt with every issue they raised (mostly by explaining the misconception) and made a new edit incorporating new research.
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As I understand it, Friendliness12345's view is that the 3O, effectively, somehow established a new consensus that the lead image should be replaced by one of the other images that had been proposed as an alternative in the original lead image discussion of more than 10 years ago (and not the image
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If I'm correct, there are duplicate Unicode characters for several Cyrillic letters used with Siberian languages, according to discussions at Unicode about encoding more of them by linguists who specialize in these languages. Several of these letters are used for Nivx, namely Қ/Ӄ Ң/Ӈ Ҳ/Ӽ. We should
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The user @Desertarun opened a formal Requested Move in my name when I did not propose a specific requested move. Please close this, as I have not requested this move. All I requested was conversation with external viewpoints included, such that when I might* propose a requested move, it already had
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on this page is not formal in any respect, and it is not necessary to have any previous dispute resolution experience. However, having a calm and patient demeanor and a good knowledge of Knowledge (XXG) policies and guidelines is very important. It's not mandatory to list yourself as a volunteer to
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4. Arguing that if interracial marriage stats are not relevant (which we agreed on), then pornography and sex tourism are also not relevant (which we disagreed on). I don't think there's a decisive way to explain this, but also, KSDerek has not written why they think this, either. I did not remove
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6. In the Russian Federation, the alphabets of the state language of the Russian Federation and the state languages ​​of the republics are constructed on the graphic basis of the Cyrillic alphabet. Other graphic bases of the alphabets of the state language of the Russian Federation and the state
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Explanation: Cyrillic alphabets of many small (and not only) peoples of Russia (mainly in the North, Siberia and the Far East) have changed, revised and clarified many times. Accordingly, many different variations of orthography were formed, which cancelled the old variations. Often changing the
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Practically given by linguists, and no one mentions any "allographs" or the use of any other alphabets at the same time. Everyone consciously uses the same alphabets. But for some reason the opinion of these linguists does not interest you. I doubt that these people made any mistake. No one even
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with a diagonal tail. Modun insists these are different alphabets, despite no evidence for that idea, because allographs supposedly do not occur in Cyrillic. When I pointed out the extensive allography between Russian, Serbian and Bulgarian, he said those were "font" differences. Well, these are
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Good day! Initially, the dispute began because of my moderation of the specified article. I just rechecked in what form the link in the specified form has the current alphabet. My other opponent ignored this fact, and began to insist that the letters he replaced are allographs, but no convincing
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If I understand correctly, Modun claims that Қ/Ӄ Ң/Ӈ Ҳ/Ӽ are not allographs, but instead that there are two distinct Nivx alphabets in current use, with apparently identical orthographic rules. If true, the article would still need to reflect that. If Modun can find RS's for that claim, then we
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I asked you a simple question, can you provide another source somewhere where it is said that the indicated letters are allographs? You are constantly trying to give me that this is a "fact". Well, at least provide another source where this is also indicated. Moreover, in the correspondence you
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I would think govt ministry publications in Nivkh would count as evidence that both variants are used in Nivkh. That's also suggested by the history, that the curved variants were created by Education Ltd. after the Nivkh alphabet had been created, and were used in Nivkh material, following the
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I have spent considerable time and research and publicly identified many issues on this article, which I then proceeded to fix. User:KSDerek disagreed with my changes wholesale, identifying 4 specific complaints, but not providing specifics about the rest. I agreed with 2 of the complaints but
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the other editor wants to change. Do not explain the reasons why you want to change the article or leave it unchanged, at this time. We will go into the reasons later, but at this time I am only asking what the issues are, not why there are issues. I understand that there are issues about
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2. Changing Rothman's text to cite instead Rothman's primary sources for the same research – Zhou & Paul and Shor & Golriz. I pointed out that Rothman makes a factual error with the Shor & Golriz study. (I agreed to restore this if a note about its factual inaccuracy is included)
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Sorry, I didn't say that allographers don't encounter it in Cyrillic. And excuse me, why is the commission for discussing alphabets of one language(s) applicable to another language? It's the same as if we were now discussing the spelling of the English language and why the results would be
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6. В Российской Федерации алфавиты государственного языка Российской Федерации и государственных языков республик строятся на графической основе кириллицы. Иные графические основы алфавитов государственного языка Российской Федерации и государственных языков республик могут устанавливаться
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Vladimir Sangi (one of the authors of the alphabet) mentions that the alphabets for both dialects were adopted by the Council of Ministers (government) of the RSFSR in 1979. Perhaps if we could find this document, we would clarify the situation in what form the modern alphabet was
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evidence was shown, and for some reason now I have to prove the opposite. My other opponent behaves as if the colonizer knows more than other natives and is trying to teach them to read and write. Sorry, maybe for the unfortunate analogy. But the evidence provided is more like OR.
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Because two graphic variants are used for these letters in Nivkh, both by official sources, both should be included in the article. We should presumably stick to one for the examples for consistency, but the alphabet charts should reflect what people actually use.
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FYI. I have commented on the discussion and attempted to identify the points of disagreement. These all appear to be content, not conduct, issues. I am not a DRN volunteer per se, though I may be willing to help the users deal with their disagreements.
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Great, the document was published in the old version of the alphabet. Where is the fact that these letters are allographs? I am a moderator and author of a translation of an article from Russian Knowledge (XXG). Why do I have to prove anything to
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from a discussion about the Khanty countries, where one of your oponets also thinks that this is OR, and at least he is not being disingenuous and does not call things by their proper names. You are inflating an unproven statement as a “fact”.
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when I have not, and opening formal move proposals in my name when I have not. If someone would be willing to just chime in and watch, I think there's perfectly reasonable discussion to be had here. But any further attempts by me to encourage
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Closed as also pending in another forum. As the instructions at the top of this noticeboard say, we do not accept cases that are also pending in another content or conduct forum. The filing editor has also filed a
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3. Criticism of Shor & Golriz's findings. It's not really Knowledge (XXG)'s job to debate the truthfulness of published research, so I refused to remove this. My edits reflect what the published research said.
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you bring your conclusions into practice. We do not know for what reasons and why different variants of alphabets were used, and bring this conclusion into practice because these are "allographs" it looks like
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Identifying the proper way to discuss and resolve complaints about edits. Identifying what Knowledge (XXG) editors can and can't do with regards to representing sources. Thank you in advance for your time.
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There's nothing suggesting Nivkh is special in this regard. It's a general feature of these letters across the minority languages of Siberia, no more significant than the difference between double-loop
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My view is that the 3O supported my view that a consensus to change the lead image had not been achieved in the discussion and that the image which had used for about 10 years should be restored per
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with a curved tail, and similarly with other letters in the series, e.g Қ/Ӄ and Ҳ/Ӽ.) AFAICT, Modun has failed to provide a single source to the contrary, and is relying solely on
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These forms are allographs across the board, per RS's. They were part of a general Soviet standardization of the minority languages of Russia and occur in multiple languages.
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These characters look more-or-less the same but can behave quite differently. U+2019 is regularly replaced by the ASCII apostrophe per the no-curly-quotes rule of the MOS.
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say their reason for believing Pornography and Sex Tourism are not relevant to "Asian fetish" is because the word "fetish" does not appear in sources in those sections.
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I declared a very very loose COI in good faith, and this has led to an issue with the articles' original writer who is disqualifying all my comments and accusing me of
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These letter variants are allographs, per sources, and both variants are acceptable for the writing of Nivkh and many other languages of Siberia. (For example,
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For Khanty, another language of Siberia that uses some of these letters, we recently found an orthography committee who decided that the curved-tail variants
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of a Nivx text that uses the original letter forms, this time the UN declaration on the rights of indigenous peoples, bilingual Nivx and Russian.
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Either the opponent will provide other, more convincing evidence, or roll back the edits to match the ALREADY EXISTING references in the article.
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1. Removal of Hyphen Magazine article citation - used in the article to cite a top-selling pornographic DVD in 2005 (I agreed to restore this)
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The source you indicated discusses the Tofa, Khanty and Evenki alphabets, as far as I remember, but there is no mention of the Nivkh alphabet.
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At least, if we are to believe the Nivkh-Russian dictionary of 1970, authored by V.N. Savelyev and Ch.M. Taksami, it had the following form:
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We follow sources. It's as simple as that. If you have RS's to support your claims, great! Let's see them. So far you've provided nothing.
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Defacto does not believe consensus has been made by the third opinion and Friendliness12345 on the replacement of the current imagine.
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are to be preferred. At the same time, the principle Khanty language journal has gone in the opposite direction, using a third variant,
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for more information), remove the entire line about 'donotarchive' so that the bot will archive it after 48 hours with no other edits.
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But it's not in the old alphabet, is it? It's the modern alphabet with all of the letters introduced in 1979, namely Ғ Ӻ Р̌ Ӿ Ў.
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We have as one source, in a discussion about why it was a mistake for Unicode to assign separate characters to these curved
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Some sources indicate that for the Nivkh language (Amur dialect) from 1953 to 1979 there was one version of the alphabet.
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Deleting a citation and replacing it with a 'cn' tag is a deletion. Calling that a "lie" doesn't change anything.
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You can't even provide convincing evidence that these letters are "allographs". This is not a proven fact!
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of the alphabet is used instead of the new one, because not all the letters of the alphabet were codified.
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indicated, not all linguists agree with this interpretation, but for some reason you ignore this opinion.
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the Pornography section and I made only insubstantial changes to the Tourism section.
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There is an on going dispute around consensus on changing the existing lead imagine.
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here is an example of how you started a "discussion" you deleted the CN column (
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The dispte is over a requested move. That discussion is taking place here;
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You adjust the practice to your convenient picture. This is already OR.
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languages ​​of the republics may be established by federal laws.
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Closed. This is a dispute over whether to rename an article by
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with respect to whether the lead image should now be replaced.
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Confirming the consensus, and the opinion of the third party.
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How have you tried to resolve this dispute before coming here?
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How have you tried to resolve this dispute before coming here?
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How have you tried to resolve this dispute before coming here?
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How have you tried to resolve this dispute before coming here?
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Again, your TRUTH is 'fact', but expert conclusions are 'OR'.
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And after 1979, modern alphabets already looked like this:
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Yes, I have discussed this issue on a talk page already.
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I am ready to try to moderate this dispute. Please read
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Yes, I have discussed this issue on a talk page already.
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and here's what happened next, you added the link LATER!
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KSDerek reverted the entire set of changes I worked on.
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Thanks am new to this process and have now done this.
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