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music. This should be reason for it _to_ be on Knowledge. Like I said, we've recieved plenty of accolades and everything is verifiable. We've been reviewed by the Recorded A Cappella Review Board (RARB) and recieved flying marks (4.7/5). If a radio spot, multiple accolades from CASA, being on BOCA, flying remarks from RARB, touring every year around the country and in the metro-Boston area, etc. isn't enough to be considered notable for a collegiate group, I don't know what is. Oh, I forgot to mention, we also host the International Championship of Collegiate A Cappella (ICCA) semifinals every year; it's the largest and most notable a cappella competition in existence.
1291:- a position that is polar opposite to my own stated poitical belief on my user page. One might therefore suggest that this user felt that anything asserting the existance of Northern Irish people is contrary to the stated political idiom of Irish Republicanism which clearly rejects any notion that a separate state could exist on the island of Ireland. Again though, this is irrelevant - we are editors here because we deal in facts. The fact is that Northern Irish people exist. What more evidence do you need? 1143:"Deletion review" is not to be confused with "please determine if a racial sub-group exists or not". Nobody here is saying that they don't exist, and their existence is largely irrelevant to the purpose of this section of Knowledge, which is to determine if deleted items (articles, templates, whatever) were done so improperly. An AfD was opened, discussed, closed, and the article was deleted, all in accordance with Knowledge policy. As a result, everyone (so far) has endorsed the deletion. 1331:
time before proposing the deletion, to give me (or others) time to develop the article from its skeletal form. Unfortunately, due to the relative complexity (not least in regard to political sensitivities) and the fact that I became rather more busy in Real Life™, I didn't have the time to improve it. I will have the time in the forthcoming month to get the article up to the standard of similar articles though.
2326:. So I don't think the contested touring experience is sufficient to overturn this closure. Ideally, article creators should be notified of afd nomination, but that seems to be a minority practice on afd (I always try to do it myself), and I've never seen lack of article creator notification overturn an afd deletion closure (since the main point is to find consensus in the broader community) 1327:. Nor is it unverifiable. Plenty of sources can be found which prove these peoples exist. It seems to me that anyone who is not familiar with the Northern Irish could be served well by an encyclopedia article on the people who make up that population. Indeed, examples of numerous such articles can be found on Knowledge and, as I said, I based the creation of this article on some of those. 2322:
However, given the trend observable in the swathe of Collegiate A Capella afds that took place over the last month or so, I think there's been a rough community consensus that groups that go on tours, get recognition for best CD etc from CASA, get published on the annual Best of... CD from CASA, get written up in the student newspaper etc - that this isn't enough to pass
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misunderstood (and also neglected). The article subject is verifiable, notable and consistant with many other similar articles and therefore, quite obviously, belongs in this encyclopedia. If all this page is for is to clarify whether or not the article in question was deleted properly, then I assume there would be no objections if someone were to re-create it. --
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rotate from campus to campus. The administrator clearly misread and said the project was temporary, which isn't true. I wrote that the pictures are only posted temporarily at a particular campus. However, the project is ongoing. Therefore, since it is a well recognized on going project, it is notable and should be reinstated onto Knowledge.
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We do, in fact, go on tour every year to a different region of the country (and are planning an international tour at some point in the near future). Being relatively new shouldn't make you immediately non-notable. The entire genre of a cappella is new and up-and-coming, compared with other genres of
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took a look at that issue since he posted the edit history above. Second, it would be very unusual if someone AfD'ed an article without posting a template since the template on the article is an integral part of the whole AfD'ing process. I know from experience that the link can be messed up when you
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is one that nobody notices. Obviously, someone noticed. The fallback is for the rule ignorer to persuade the community that they improved the encyclopedia by deleting this. I've just now dropped the DRVNote flag on the deleting admin's page, but they have declared a wikibreak, so they may not even
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It clearly has sources, as listed above. Furthermore, it's absurd that at any point an article may be deleted within a few days just because people didn't visit it within those few days. One AfD should not throw away an article forever, especially if their have been previous AfDs saying keep. That's
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Daniel: There was clearly new evidence presented as there was NO evidence presented at the second AfD discussion. I'm not saying keep the page because "I like it." I'm saying keep the page because the group _is_ notable, and certainly encyclopedically notable if you're talking about the most notable
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We're clearly notable within our sphere of influence and our genre. I'm not saying it's an adverse judgment on our musical ability, but it's definitely an ignorant statement to say we're nn just because we're part of a smaller genre (note that I'm not calling anyone ignorant; just that the statement
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Thank you for taking the time to review the article. After reviewing the articles, and as the author, I will also endorse deletion of the article. As a note, it is much easier to understand this way, given that actual discussions and reasons have been given--rather than to come back from lunch and
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The talk page is normally for discussing an article. However, in deletion related debates, the discussion is held on the applicable deletion page. This allows folks who might not stumble across the article to easily see the debate and contribute. Placing your comments on the talk page caused no harm
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Per Fan-1967's link above, the man's only claim to notability is a minor award given to several hundred scoutleaders per year and never covered in media except Scouting internal newsletters and an occasional note in the local-trivia section of local newspapers. I wouldn't speedy-delete this were it
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as the deleting admin. Article subject was a Boy Scout volunteer and school administrator. No claim of notability provided so speedied under CSD A7 and author notified with {{nn-notice}} template. Based upon his response on my talk page, I believe his terming this an "Unqualified" speedy deletion is
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The deletion was announced (and widely acclaimed by the commenters) at AN/I, (see link provided by Calton). A speedy closure of DRV after 4 hours, without a chance of a wider input, and without giving anyone a chance to see a bigger picture. It was an out-of-process deletion indeed, but Knowledge is
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This is the proper forum to get this undeleted but the nomination is based on a false factual claim, as I noted above. The nomination on the article page linked to the wrong discussion for all of 3 minutes, and then was changed to the correct (2nd) discussion, after which the article was not edited
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The issue of how this AfD was closed is that nobody knew about it! The few people who check AfD knew about it, but the people who regularly visit the Wiki page didn't. Look at the disparity between how many comments there were in the original AfD and in the second one. Clearly something went wrong,
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Finally I would like to say that, as far as I can recall (I can't tell for sure because the discussion took place on the article's talk page, which has also been deleted), the initial discussions with the user who proposed the deletion indicate that s/he had patiently waited for a certain length of
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and does not represent a major media channel or an authoritative music criticism source (even if it did, I'm not sure if a "Artist of the Month" interview is sufficient recognition for Knowledge). If the group does indeed tour regionally, then Ohconfucious's statement that they don't was mistaken.
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For one thing, we thought this whole deletion review was over since the first decision was keep. I guarantee that the link to the later discussion was not posted on the main page. The first one was, originally. And then it was clean. Anyway, we listed reasons in the first discussion as to why the
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The administrator clearly misread the article. The article is about an ongoing pro life project in which pictures of aborted fetuses are posted at university campuses. It is a project that most pro lifers and most pro choicers in North America are aware of it. It is very notable. The pictures
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Is this not the place to object to deletions? My apologies if I am in error, but I was under the impression that it was. I am not contesting whether proper procedure had taken place - I am objecting to the fact that the article in question was proposed for deletion because it's purpose was
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than the claim made at the onset of the deletion process - that claim was that the creation of the article was POV. Indeed, one could take a quick look at the userpage of the person that proposed the deletion of the article, and quickly discover that the user considers his or herself an
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was trying to correct. Also, the number of comments on the first AfD was influenced by the fact that it was relisted. If you can ask an admin to recreate the revision just prior to deletion and thereby prove that the template was missing from the article you got a case. Otherwise not.
1966:, it's a featured article and one of our best, and never going to be deleted. However, nobody would argue that all 1.5 million Eagle scouts should be given their own articles, nor would being an Eagle scout generally be considered a claim of notability in a biography article. 2167:
The decision was keep on the first discussion, and the second discussion was never listed on the main article's page; only the first one was ever listed. At the very least, there should be another (listed) discussion so people have a chance to speak their minds.
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After all, we have articles on military honors such as (U.S.) the bronze and silver stars. However, our guidelines say that notability is only considered automatic for winners of the highest honors, such as (U.S. again) the Congressional Medal of Honor.
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no? Sure, I know I'm biased, being in the group, but I'm speaking for everybody I've spoken to (including people outside the group). If this isn't the proper forum to get this undeleted (and possibly relisted in AfD) please tell me what is.
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decision should be keep. We've been on Best of College A Cappella 2006, we were voted runner-up for favorite a cappella group by the Contemporary A Cappella Society of America (CASA) and our latest CD, Left On Red, was voted favorite CD. (
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There is a significant difference between having an article and being mentioned in an article. Every topic is going to have individual items that are not that notable on their own, but that provide back-ground information of interest.
1178:. I suggest you read it, since it seems to me that you're just sore that the article was deleted, a perception I wouldn't have if you were to provide any evidence to back up your (rather nebulous) claim at the onset of this review. 1847:
We don't write articles about people who go quietly about their business. Also, per Fan-1967, I am seriously worried about the very real prospect of 50,000 people with no other qualification with an encyclopedia article.
1831:- valid application of policy, little assertion of notability, not really reliable sources, does not seem at all verified. Having a job and getting a minor award does not make you anywhere near notable. Correct speedy. 833:
or General-11 apply, IMO - I mean, it explicitly states that it's a defunct company, so it's difficult to make a case for it being blatant advertising, and notability was asserted. Don't know what "no country" means.
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groups in a cappella. Stop throwing the WP:COI argument at me; just because not all too many people read these AfD pages doesn't mean I have a COI. Not to mention that I'm speaking for multiple people I've spoken to.
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concerns of the deleter, but I am rather annoyed about the DRV closing so fast. If process is important (as the overturn "votes" above insist surely it is no less important at DRV. 15:24, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
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There have been plenty of reviews and articles written about us in The Tech, MIT's student newspaper. We sang at Susan Hockfield's inauguration (the current President of MIT). I mean, I could go on...
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Actually, yes, if he disagrees with a speedy, it wasn't a valid speedy. Speedy deletion is only supposed to be for cases where any uninvolved observer would agree with deletion. There's a reason that
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figleaf. If there are problems with the article, edit the content or submit it for a third good-faith afd nomination (third existing afd was speedy keep due to bad faith) after a proper grace period.
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Don't dare to assume what how I feel about any given matter by the way. I may be "sore", or I may not - that is irrelevant (actually, a rather more appropriate description would be
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page (well sourced in the sense or reliable sources that explicitely say that Northen Irish is a separate ethnicity), and (3) come back here well prepared. Easy as 1-2-3 :-) `'
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return to make their case in a timely fashion. I can't conceive of a solid case for deleting this without taking it to AFD, but I remain open to them making a case.
1651:. Not sure what the text was when it was speedied, but the talk page of the article contains an assertion of notability that should go to the greater community. -- 1813:
I think the key is that CSD is for cases where the overwhelming majority of people would agree with a speedy. Theoretically, no article would get 100% agreement.
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If the Silver Beaver is indeed considered "non-notable" then shouldn't the article on the Silver Buffalo award be modified (see aforementioned "talk" section)?--
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Being a public school administrator and winning a minor scouting award does not confer notability. Unverified and no assertion of notability. Valid speedy.--
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They pass WP:MUSIC as per the first AfD. That precedent is bullshit; you cannot rate say a group isn't notable just because it is a student group.
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03:48, 15 December 2006 . . Ohconfucius (Talk | contribs | block) 03:45, 15 December 2006 . . Ohconfucius (Talk | contribs | block) (AfD)
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tag) may be undeleted, without further discussion, on a reasonable request. Any admin can be asked to do this, or a request may be made at
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and to be civil. I created the article in good faith, following the examples set by other similar articles already existant in Knowledge.
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I see nothing wrong with how this AfD was closed. To the person above... this is not round 2 of AfD and you might want to take a look at
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that he believed the General criteria where the only CSD criteria. It should be noted that this article was previously speedy deleted by
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I'm not sure if it would be speediable, but I recommend posting the reasoning behind the nomination here and not on the talk page. ~
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per valid AfD, WP:MUSIC, and the overwhelming amount of precedent that student groups at a single school are almost never notable.
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my decision, seeing that one editor thinks the claim is notable, but I don't see this as having any chance to survive a new AfD.
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Yup, I jumped the gun (I make no illusions about that; my bad), but the article is running through AfD right now, meaning that it
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OK people - some of you are admins I think. But you haven't been particularly helpful. The following paragraph, from the page
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How are CASA and RARB unreliable? They are valid organizations which deal in a cappella. WERS is a licensed radio station...
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Look at the second bullet point in this thread for the sources I refer to. And that was exactly my point, it _is_ absurd.
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works in both ways, not to mention the snowball clause: quite a few persons considered this an uncalled-for violation. `'
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be deleted through the proper process soon. I think I'll just stick to !voting in reviews, rather than closing them. ;-)
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Is there anything else you challenge this AfD on? Otherwise I will close it speedily. (PS Correct links added above.) ~
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Indeed. I don't think you understand what Deletion Review is for, Mal, which is why I provided a link for you above.
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the place to request undeletion, please direct me to the section of Knowledge that is. Thank you for your time. --
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I don't have strong feelings about endorsing the deletion since it was clearly out of process (though I share the
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absurd...someone could just as easily keep nominating an article for deletion until they get lucky one day.
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per lack of notability and verifiability to the point that this would never in a billion years pass an AfD.
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is as such). If we're one of the more notable groups within a cappella (which we are), then we're notable!
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Likely a new editor unsure of process. The appropriate process at this stage is to offer arguments in
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Ah, but by the criteria that "I wouldn't speedy because badlydrawnjeff thinks the claim is notable",
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Being a valid organization does not make you reliable, nor does being a licensed radio station. -
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Regarding the new or revisited references presented above - WERS 88.9 is the radio station of
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That's incorrect, the nomination with a link to the first discussion was created at 3:45 by
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I suggest you to do the following: (1) get yourself very familiar with wikipedia policies
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We're not saying your group is not notable in general, we're saying your group is not
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http://casa.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=346&Itemid=149
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Although I'm a serial endorser of deletions normally, this one I must say should be
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if for no other reason than that a specific criteria wasn't declared. It can't be
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I can't find the article choosing us as AOTM, but you can hear a recording here:
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Assuming the deletion is endorsed, shouldn't the talk page then be speedied? --
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Historically significant US company, out of business, not advertising, links to
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not a bureaucracy. Oh well, guess I'll have to get rid of this the hard way.
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away, as badlydrawnjeff will object to all speedies on general principle.
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about my claim? I don't see that it could be viewed as any more or less
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as per Jimfbleak (note that I was also one of the speedy deleters).
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The article has not been deleted. It is currently being discussed at
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Since all the discussion seems to be taking place here, what is the
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Objection to POV proposal, or lack of understanding of the subject.
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The following comments were added after the closure of this DRV:
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AfD for the 2. time and I believe this is the exact error that
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as you told everyone above so they would be able to find it. --
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Serbophobia (second nomination)
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http://web.mit.edu/resonance/www/media/audio/wersresonance.mp3
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find the article deleted with no real explanation given.--
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be speedied, which is the way badlydrawnjeff wants it.
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So you wouldn't speedy, but you endorse the speedy? --
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I don't see an award from a local scout council (per
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Maybe, though that's highly debatable. 2289:until it was recreated as a redirect to 466:does not create a license to run amuck. 2668:The above is an archived debate of the 2297:, as a clear and seemingly uncontested 2010:The above is an archived debate of the 1441:The above is an archived debate of the 1074:The entirety of the article's prose. -- 903:The above is an archived debate of the 829:. Even if they had been cited, neither 672:The above is an archived debate of the 303:The above is an archived debate of the 1065:Which sentence are you refering to? -- 1039:What "new evidence" would you like? -- 838:due to lack of independent sources. -- 204:? 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