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608:. I cannot view the text of the article, so will not comment on its content. My suggestion to overturn and relist at AFD is mostly for the sake of courtesy. I am aware that a speedy deletion that is contested need not be overturned, but when editors other than the article's creator also request undeletion, I feel it's a good sign that more discussion (and an opportunity to develop the article) is warranted. -- 952:, who made careers out of stating that they were once gay and no longer are. How can someone who states in a reliable source that they were once gay and now no longer are possibly be subject to BLP concerns? How can someone who writes books extolling their own transformation from gay to straight possibly raise concerns that it might be "implied" that they used to be gay when 1151:. Poor debate, for sure, but the fundamental fact is that this was a list of people asserting a sexuality for which no reliable sources can be found any more. Heavy on "said to be", light on sources. And what, precisely, is supposed to be encyclopaedic about lists of people who might once have gone gay but don't any more? I don't see it myself. 990:. Kind of a tough one. Nom makes a good point that many of the delete !votes were weak but I believe the points were still valid. Also concede that the consensus was weak, so while I will endorse the deletion, I would also not mind seeing it relisted to generate more consensus one way or another, but not flat-out overturning. 726: 1275:
it any more of a problem than any list of people by sexuality? If we get the wrong people on this, then we'll have problems, but same goes for the 'lists of gay people' which I suspect we have. POV issues rise here - but looking at it, it seems to me that the deletion argument is also guilty of that. Ok, my vote
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There is obviously no consensus to delete in that debate - thus an explained delete closure just begs to be overturned. Given the lack of consensus, is there an overriding policy reason to delete anyway? Now, I'm torn - this is a BLP disaster waiting to happen. But then, if it is properly sourced, is
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That doesn't look like a consensus to delete to me. Most of the delete !votes used arguments that were subsequently rebutted, or which could trivially be solved without deletion, or which are somewhat week (e.g. "Is this a joke? Once gay, always gay" or "This doesn't provide useful imformation" (AKA
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and redeletions. As several have already said, passing mentions are not sufficient to support an encyclopedia article. As to the claim that he hit "#1 on the iTunes dance chart", everyone can be number one if you parse your selection criteria narrowly enough. iTunes alone lists 23 different chart
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text of the page was "Fighting Words is a political webcomic by Ben Smith. Material from the strip is printed as part of Attitude 3: The New Subversive Online Cartoonists" plus an almost empty infobox and some minor wikification. There is no reasonable assertion of notability in that text and the
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I can't say as I find it at all reasonable to put words in the mouths of the people who !voted in the AFD. Had they wanted to raise the issue at AFD, they could have. To answer the specific concern, however, off the top of my head the membership criteria would be something along the lines of "for
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concerns, which are invalid because the article was sourced and it's very unlikely that someone is going to sue for being called heterosexual; "unmaintainable" and "too broad" which since the list only had a handful of entries is ludicrous on its face and "once gay, always gay" which is rank POV
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Are you deliberately being obtuse? This was not "List of people who had reparative therapy" (although many on the list did in fact have it). This was a list of people who used to self-identify as gay and no longer do. The reparative therapy link was offered to show that the notion of gay people
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A number of reasons were given for deletion in the Afd, all of them valid. Anmong other, I questioned the assumption that a gay person would not object to being called heterosexual is probably false; there is further the problem that listing here implies the person was once gay. Therefore, BLP
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It's a ridiculous non-concern. BLP does not demand that biographies of living people be deleted in their entirety if there is unsourced or poorly sourced material. It demands that the unsourced or poorly sourced material be removed. Since the items on the list were properly sourced BLP cannot
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unlikely that a valid article on this can be developed which is not both self-referential and obvious from the combination of "wiki" plus "vandalism". I suppose if Miltopia wants to waste time that is not our problem, but the deletion consensus was as much in respect of the subject as of the
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lists should always include unambiguous statements of membership criteria based on definitions made by reputable sources, especially in difficult or contentious topics. Do you think it would be reasonable to read the AfD as saying that the consensus thought it is unlikely that an unambiguous
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pushing. The !vote count was 11-7 which is hardly a clear-cut majority, especially in light of the poor reasons offered for several delete !votes (which should lead to those opinions being discounted) and the fact that one of the delete !votes actually supported the notion of having
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No one's noting the DRVs on the article talk page. (They can't, of course, because of the curious use of PP.) I might have known what the issues were. Clearly there are issues so bad that they require extreme lengths to prevent the creation of the article. -
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properly be used as an excuse for deleting the items or the list that the items make up. Also, at no point in the AFD was the notion that a gay person might get upset at being called heterosexual raised so why that's coming up here is a mystery.
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You may be right -- it just seemed that since the information in the deleted Fighting Words article ("Fighting Words is a webcomic by Ben Smith that was in Attitude 3") is already in the Attitude article, that a redirect would work.
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Oh please. Both of those are "also-ran" namechecks and nothing more. His viral marketing campaign really is not getting result, perhaps he should hire a new publicist. Or get his kit off on YouTube, that seems to work.
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With all due respect, it seems from the above comment that you do not understand the content of the list. The list was for people who stated that they were once homosexual and no longer are. There are people, for example,
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Because I still endorse the deletion. As I stated I view it to be something of a borderline case, where my support is behind the closing admin but I would not oppose relisting. Consider it a "weak ensorse" if you must.
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Actually, WP:MUSIC's relevant criteria is: "Has had a charted hit on any national music chart." That is not well defined... that is to say, what chart(s) qualify as "national music charts", though it does say
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is a reliable source. But now I expect to hear some excuse as to why it's not good enough. I see a lot of excuses popping up as to why this topic must be so vehemently excluded. None of them really justify
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this LA Weekly article (and photo). I realize that he's still borderline in terms of media mentions, but given the buzz (evidenced by over a million Google hits), I think the notability is close enough.
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Wait, never mind, I misread your request. I could userfy the page history, but I'm honestly not sure you want it, since it was quite obviously a vandal magnet. Try starting something from scratch first.
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in which he identifies himself as a "former homosexual," which he also states in the book that he wrote (which as far as I know still exists and did not vanish in a poof of fairy dust). Source for
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as 1) no consensus to delete b) no overriding reason to delete without such a consensus. But I wont cry if this says dead. I hate lists - and especially lists by sexuality (or ex-sexuality).--
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It may be worth placing a note on the talk page - I'll do it once I gather links to all the DRV discussions. The frequency this appears on DRV is a reason why deletion is usually endorsed. --
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If this was directed at me, I never said that there was an exhaustive or official list of valid reasons. I said that the reasons offered in this nomination were not valid for this AFD.
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His viral marketing campaign did succeed in getting him a #1 spot on iTunes downloads, for what that's worth. Honestly, I don't care whether or not he has an article. I thought the
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It's part of the larger compilation. There's no information about this particular comic, and the previous article had pretty much nothing to build upon. It's a simple solution. --
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seems to me that it was just done without much thought - if an article is important enough to be featured in a book about online cartoonists, its importance is not in question. --
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to me. Semi-protect I could see. WP:PP is a bit extraordinary for someone who is much closer to notable than, say, my boss or my kid brother or my high school principal. -
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thing was incredibly stupid, but eventually it got to the point where I couldn't deny it's notability. I think JS is getting close to that point, if not already there.
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to get some idea of the encyclopedic nature of the topic. Second, the sourcing for people's former sexuality does not vanish with the change of sexuality. Source for
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There is no suggestion as far as I can see that any of these individuals have undergone "reparative therapy". Such a claim would certainly require robust sourcing.
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in which he is reported to have given a speech about his "journey...out of homosexuality." The sourcing is there and the encyclopedic nature of the topic is there.
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deletion endorsed just a few days ago (see DRV March 24th). Suggest future DRV attempts be speedy-closed: a new DRV every 4 days is disruptive and unreasonable.
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the article until that condition is met. I'm being a little harsher here because that possibility has been brought up a few times, and no one has attempted it. --
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small note: In the event it's determined the old history shouldn't be uncovered, please do not delete my subpage, since it won't be posting of recreated content.
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people who once self-identified as LGBT but later began self-identifying as heterosexual." The wording can be tweaked but it seems relatively unambiguous to me.
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as closer, I think I made an error here (after looking at the debate again, and noting the problems here). Not sure if I should simply undelete this, or not...?
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That's part of the problem, we're still considering otherwise reliable sources unreliable. But I've led us too far OT already. Just generally frustrated. --
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Repeating general plea for Knowledge (XXG) to bring their sourcing in line with the 21st century so obviously notable individuals can be covered properly. --
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Regardless, if a notable magazine in a major city is making "passing" mentions by name and printing photos of someone, I would argue that they must have
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It is for these reasons of interpretation, popularity, and measurable user base that I respectfully request the undeletion of the WikyBlog article.
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The deletion of a list of this nature which is not footnoted to reliable sources on every single name, which this wasn't, should be automatically
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Since when is reaching number 1 in an iTunes chart not notable? And how are MusicEdge and iTunes not reliable sources to attribute to? -
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and MusicEdge as reliable enough to base an article off. A number one at iTunes is clearly notable and there's sources to back it up. -
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Could somebody just tell me what the claim to notability is supposed to be? Only, that looks a lot like a valid A7 speedy to me.
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This was deleted due to unverifiablity. I'd like to try and develop an article in userspace and then move it to mainspace. See
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if you can come back with some reliable sources on the topic, might be worth reconsideration. But find some reliable sources
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I don't think you can take unilateral action since its now at deletion review. But I'm still on the fence on this one. Per
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types, each with 22 charts (by country). That alone does not convince me that the subject yet meets the requirements of
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Fine, so undelete the article and I'll move the sources from the individual articles to the list. Problem solved.
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Repeating general comment that being in line with the 21st century does not make unreliable sources reliable. -
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Please point me to the official and exhaustive list of Valid Reasons that you've been perusing. Failing that,
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It's probably a better idea to come back when your article is written, since your subpage has nothing in it.
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Unfortunately, we don't include things because they are "getting close" to being notable. They have to be
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page has been unchanged since May 2006, leading me to conclude that no expansion is likely.
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Note as well that, using DidiWiki's approach, the number of hits when searching google for "
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confused it as an "innovative use of Mediawiki" and not an independently developed project.
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national music chart". So... unless you are saying that the US iTunes dance chart is not "
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sourced, either in the article itself or in the linked page to the subject's own article.
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notability. The Weekly determined he was notable enough to showcase in the photo. -
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they write and sell books in which they state flat out that they used to be gay?!
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turning straight is an encyclopedic topic. "Ex-gay" redirects to that article.
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I don't know, I'm still trying to work out the supposed claim to notability.
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The only problem with this statement is that every single name on the list
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yet again; however, you can write a new article in user space that cites
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concerns make a list like this unmaintainable. The close was reasonable.
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this discussion because it appeared a clear case of "keep" to me. --
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which all have articles on Wikepedia and have been deemed notable.
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Isn't this a subpage? I thought they were explicitly not allowed.
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statements of membership criteria could be developed to overcome
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I should note that while going over the AFD page for March 21, I
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AfD valid; noone of the above make it notable; also, I only get
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If you don't mind seeing it relisted then maybe you should vote
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List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people/No longer identified
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isn't strong enough that a redirect would be representative.
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I'd say that the speedy of this article inconjunction with
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used a reference to WikyBlog to defend it's own deletion.
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The article seems to have been deleted because WikyBlog's
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That's a passing mention, actually, despite the photo. --
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valid unanimous AfD (and it was even relisted twice, and
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If it is, undelete it and move it from being a sub-page.
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to userspace, I think this could get some good sources.
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which is for all intents and purposes the same list.
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Deletion review
Log
2007 March 26
Deletion review archives
2007 March
2007 March 28
27 March 2007
Wiki vandalism
GRBerry
03:27, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
deletion review
Wiki vandalism
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
restore
cache
AfD
User:Miltopia/Wiki vandalism
Milto LOL pia
23:23, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Core
desat
01:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

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