952:(keep deleted). I see no process problems in the first AFD discussion. The second discussion was held because at least one user thought that the recreated version was not sufficiently similar to the deleted version to qualify under CSD criterion G4 however based upon my own review of the deleted content, the recreated version suffered from the same lack of sourcing as the initially deleted version. This conclusion was endorsed in the Aug AfD discussion where sources were again requested but were not provided to the satisfaction of the community. No new evidence was presented in the recreated content or in the second discussion or here that would support the reconsideration of the previous two decisions.
1962:- As an admin who over a year ago G4 speedied a recreation of this article, I was not certain if the new information was enough to overturn the original AFD, and felt that a DRV would be best to get consensous on that overturn. I suggested this to the author of the new version, and directed him to DRV. DRV having shown a fairly unambiguous overturn of the original AFD, based on the new information, I have now moved the article back into place, including all it's history, and undone the salting in the process. -
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instead trying to delete a dozen articles with claims that are only partly true for some of the articles and are completely wrong for others. If I went and picked a dozen articles from the main page and list them for deletion claiming they all fail WP:V and WP:RS and are fancruft, such an AfD would be SNOWed within minutes and that would be correct. The situation is the same here.
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1688:, many of the articles in question do need work to include more/any reliable citations. However, their content is largely well-written and editors are aware these articles need improving thanks to the assessments visable on their talk pages. Also, I think strong arguments would have been made that would have resulted in keeping each individual article.
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As far as I can see it, there was no real consensus, even if the sockpuppets (alleged) are removed from the tally. Unfortunately I cannot view the article in question as the cache is from July 28th. I have no idea if the claim is true that improvement was made, so an admin might want to review that.
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I'm sorry but I don't think it's ready to come out yet. Of the three sources in your draft, the first describes itself as "a user driven internet startups community" and encourages the creators of new ideas to post about themselves. The content itself reads more like a press release than
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1592:. Sceptre probably should have left the close to somebody totally uninvolved with all things Dr. Who related. This kind of mass nomination of articles of assorted notability is never a good idea. Some of those listed probably should be renominated individually.
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I'm still new and probably make mistake in update article in wikipedia. I really hope that you can unblock this page so I can update information about Kulim' plantation company so can be share with all people about it. Thank You
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No matter how long this went, two closures were possible: 1) trainwreck, nominate individually where appropriate or 2) keep, nominate individually where appropriate. There is no point to reopening a mass nomination.
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