204:. He also incorrectly presumed that my nomination "stems from an apparent misunderstanding of the notability guideline precendence" which it does not. None of the keep votes provided actual sources showing significant coverage of Weidenbaum beyond his name being mentioned in various Viz press releases, etc. Request AfD be reopened or closing summary reevaluated as no consensus. --
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a person, and I discussed with the creator that creating this article had been considered months ago. As for what you added...uh huh...a minor note on his Pulse's editorial policy (which has nothing to do with him as a person) and a minor note that he wrote something somewhere about smoking dope. Uh huh...--
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As usual, you presume to know what I did or did not do, and presume to know anything about the history behind things. I did not find any of those "sources" to be anything more than trivial mentions of him as the spokesperson for the company he works for, rather than significant coverage about him as
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Insufficient detail elsewhere There was a page on Akiha Tohno (from the Melty Blood spinoff of
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Weidenbaum. That is, the source is not about him, it's about whatever he is talking / writing / being interviewed about. It also points to press releases, etc., not
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From looking at other articles that are nominated for deletion, this page is miles more notable from the others. Some just look boring and have no references whatsoever and yet are still being 'kept'. I strongly recommened this page is looked at again and then un-deleted.
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as a 7.2. I did quiet some research after this band on the internet to compile this article, because I knew so little about their background, so I would like to have it back. In case you are not familiar with noise rock, the band is comparable with bands like
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